zoom314
Superman
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
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Re: Its all a dream anyways
Well I've never heard of such a Law and unless You are prepared to "Quote the Actual Law" down to the paragraph, Then I'd say You are Full of It! And I would hope some would question what motivates You. Municipal run Cable Operations are ok, As Private run Cable Operations can't do everything as They have to make a Profit, Municipal Cable Operations don't and are self funding and are accountable to the People where They are based. Besides I thought that Government was Of the People, For the People and By the People Part of the Gettysburg address by President Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the United States of America. And not by those who would restrict the Government & the Peoples Freedom to be innovative in solving problems where Private Industry can't or won't do It. |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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said by pnh102  :
This is what I still don't get. If these systems eventually pay for themselves as everyone seems to believe, why involve the government at all? Why can't a bunch of like-minded private citizens pool their resources and build their own service? You get all the benefits of local accountability and having the money stay in town and it doesn't cost the government a nickel.
Even that municipal broadband attorney didn't answer that one.
That is another possibility. The problem for over builders is to gain financial confidence. It is easier much easier for municipalities since they are debt driven rather then equity. The expected rate of return can be much lower just enough to pay the bond rather then ever higher quarterly returns.
There is also a matter of local control. If an over builder builds the network there is no requirement for open access. They are perfectly able to build a vertically integrated network and exclude anyone and any service they want. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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said by batageek :
Taxes? Most muni systems are self supporting entities that do not require any taxes. They may use bonding to initially build the systems, but pay the bonds off with revenues from user fees
This is what I still don't get. If these systems eventually pay for themselves as everyone seems to believe, why involve the government at all? Why can't a bunch of like-minded private citizens pool their resources and build their own service? You get all the benefits of local accountability and having the money stay in town and it doesn't cost the government a nickel.
Even that municipal broadband attorney didn't answer that one.
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zabes63
join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL
| reply to bigbeartech
said by bigbeartech :
It is illegal for a government to own and operate any buisness that competes against private buisness. It is a law, I believe at least at the federal level.
I'm interested in knowing what Federal Statute this is that you are referring to.
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bigbeartech
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join:2001-09-23
Saint Louis, MO
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It is illegal for a government to own and operate any buisness that competes against private buisness. It is a law, I believe at least at the federal level.
I guess that since they are on a city level of government they can get away with it, but its still illegal to me. This would mean that any city could suddenly compete with your company, driving your company out of buisness and you out of a job. This is why that law is in effect.
No Im not stoned, and no my nickname is not goo?
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batageek
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join:2003-01-25
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Goo? said "But the underlying factor here is that, a municipality is government run, it is illegal for the government to compete with private companies (entertainment companies to say the least), and there is no "national security need" for this. It does not help any citizens gain anything except more taxes and headache."
Are you stoned?
How is it illegal for the government to compete with private companies? See »www.tricitybroadband.com/city_owned.htm for a list of munis currently providing some sort of telco service.
Taxes? Most muni systems are self supporting entities that do not require any taxes. They may use bonding to initially build the systems, but pay the bonds off with revenues from user fees (read: only those who use the services pay....the entire local economy benefits.) |
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