abslte18
join:2001-11-28
San Juan, PR
clubs: | Could it be true
I heard free upgrade to 1.6 for all you qualify |
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Useful Idiot
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join:2003-04-16
Alexandria, VA
clubs: | I hope it's true.
That would be kick ass!
Becuase it all makes sense.
We pay $39.99/$49.99/month for the service, and that much many can get up to 1.5/368 for Cable service.
I'll try to look into this, to see if it's true. |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
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Hmmm, this is especially interesting given that VOL recently removed the 1500/128 option for residential DSL signups.
If this is true, Verizon should upgrade all 768/128 DSL customers to 1500/128, rather than just "those who qualify" (which I am assuming is a reference to subscriber loop length), since the DSL Modem and the DSLAM will negotiate the best attainable data rates during sync.
Consider a DSLAM port provisioned for 1500 kbps downstream. On a short, high quality subscriber loop, the downstream rate will be capped by the provisioning limit (1500 kbps), i.e. the FAST rate will be 1500 but the MAX rate will be much higher.
On a long and/or poor quality subscriber loop, the downstream rate will be limited by the speed at which the DSL modem can attain sync with the DSLAM, i.e. the MAX rate (and thus the FAST rate) will be less than 1500 kbps.
- Dan
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abslte18
join:2001-11-28
San Juan, PR
clubs: |  I bet you 100 bucks if we set ur line of for 1.6 Dan that you couldn't even get a solid ready light |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
| said by abslte18  :
I bet you 100 bucks if we set ur line of for 1.6 Dan that you couldn't even get a solid ready light
Are there actual electrical differences when a DSLAM port is configured for different downlink rates, or is it just a software-programmable cap?
From the turn-up results I've seen, it appears that the DSL modem will sync with the DSLAM at whatever maximum rate can be attained. However, if the MAX rate is greater than the provisioning, you're capped by the latter.
For example, my sister's DSL turn-up results are a FAST rate of 768 down, and a MAX rate of over 4900 down, so she's capped by her provisioning at 768 down.
- Dan
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abslte18
join:2001-11-28
San Juan, PR
clubs:
| There are some electrical differences when the LT card is provisioned to a higher speed from my understanding.
If we were to "un-cap" the provisioning on your line it would cause you to lose sync. Your line would be sure to lose sync if it were provisioned to 1.6.
All I can say is what I have seen and there are no rules that I haven't seen DSL break there is always something new for me to see every month i.e. your line |
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Dont bet on it
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Verizon too busy making hardware improvements what you're speaking about is probably months away or more. |
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA | reply to abslte18
Where did anyone see this in Verizon's literature??? |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20 | reply to abslte18
This is just from the rumor-mill, not "officially" announced.
- Dan |
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PCMaven
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join:2000-02-13
Somerville, NJ
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said by abslte18 :
I heard free upgrade to 1.6 for all you qualify
I'm guessing upstream speeds will remain at 128?
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93254336
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join:2001-10-20
| said by PCMaven :
said by abslte18 :
I heard free upgrade to 1.6 for all you qualify
I'm guessing upstream speeds will remain at 128?
No actually the upstream speed will be dropped to 64 kbps... Verizon giveth, and Verizon taketh away. All must be in balance...
Just kidding... 
- Dan
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PCMaven
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join:2000-02-13
Somerville, NJ
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| said by 93254336 :
said by PCMaven :
said by abslte18 :
I heard free upgrade to 1.6 for all you qualify
I'm guessing upstream speeds will remain at 128?
No actually the upstream speed will be dropped to 64 kbps... Verizon giveth, and Verizon taketh away. All must be in balance...
Just kidding...
- Dan
You realize, of course, that your kidding is disproportionate? 
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dp
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join:2000-12-08
Greensburg, PA | reply to abslte18
I wouldn't mind if they bump me up to 1500/128 |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
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said by PCMaven :
You realize, of course, that your kidding is disproportionate?
Oh, I was calculating that based on the downstream rate being doubled, so the upstream rate would be halved.
Just goofing around, but which would people prefer (and why)? 768/128 or 1500/64?
- Dan
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PCMaven
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join:2000-02-13
Somerville, NJ
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| Personally I prefer the 1500/128 that I have. 768 just isn't enough bandwidth for me when I'm on the PC and my Wife is logged onto work. I'm not too particular about upstream since I rarely upload large files. I don't do file sharing so upload speed is not important to me.
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dp
Go Steelers
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join:2000-12-08
Greensburg, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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To repeat, I hope this isn't a rumor and I'd gladly take 1500/128 over my existing 768/128 with no increase in price Bring it on
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Paul928
join:2000-05-06
Haverhill, MA
 ·Comcast
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Hmmm...I doubt you will see this. I hope this rumor is true, but I'm not holding my breath. If it does come into being, I think it will take somewhere in the lines of a couple of years for it to take effect though. I've been with Verizon long enough to know how they drag their feet on making upgrades.....Hell, It's been months since the account log-in on the home page worked...lol....I hate to sound negative or anything, but I just don't see it happening for a while, or even at all. |
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Paul928
join:2000-05-06
Haverhill, MA
·Comcast
| Okay I got this from a good source.
Starting tommorow all new VOL customers will be "up to 1.5/128" for $35 a month. The up to is because only customers out 12,000 feet or less will be provisioned to 1.5. Anyone out farther than 12k feet will be 768. The deal goes public the middle of May. All current customers will be grandfathered which means until they cancel or actually call to order they will remain the same speed for the same price. Also this will only be for customers on ATM (all of ex-BA area and parts of ex-GTE areas. customers on Frame-Relay will still be 768/128).
I assume that all this is MORE than a rumor.
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
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According to a VADI tech I recently talked to, the provisioning of DSL lines is remotely configurable through supervisory access to the DSLAM and router; it does not require a DSLAM card swap, etc.
However, switching everyone over to 1500 downstream could cause some very intra-CO interesting network congestion problems.
- Dan
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
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join:2001-10-20
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said by Paul928 :
Starting tomorrow all new VOL customers will be "up to 1.5/128" for $35 a month. [...] All current customers will be grandfathered which means until they cancel or actually call to order they will remain the same speed for the same price.
That brings up two questions:
1. If 1500/128 is going to cost $35/month, what is the price going to be with a Veriations bundle?
2. Are you saying that current customers have to call VOL and request an upgrade, or that they have to cancel their current VOL DSL service and then place a brand new order for "upgraded" service?
The latter makes no sense, but then again we are talking about Verizon...
- Dan
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