 gt1
@166.68.x.x | Re: buh bye SBC Fa Shizzle, I am sure that speed dial will help you a lot when your electricity will go out. Bell network is a national asset and should be preserved in some form. | |
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  Go Chargers7 Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle Premium join:2002-09-24 Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: buh bye SBC Well, if my electricity went out the phones won't work anyway. All of my phones require 110v. Besides, both my ATA, wireless phone base, both modems (one's a WISP with it's transmitter far outside my grid) and their primary router are on an APC 1400VA UPS and 50 watts, it will run for over 5 hours. So yeah, if the moon was full, the tides high, planets aligned, we're in 3 feet of water during a tornado...I'd have to break out the cellular phone. The rest of the time...I'm saving money and getting superior service with VoIP.
Screw the RBOCs and their antitrust behavior. -- When yer a pioneer, you're bound to get a few arrows in the butt. [text was edited by author 2003-02-26 14:01:14] | |
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 |  comcastech
join:2002-12-18 Saint Paul, MN
| Re: buh bye SBC With a land based phone line..phones dont require a power cord to work. If you already have a phone and it is does not require plugging(answering machine/caller id) in then it will work(thats why you can put battieries in some phones). Land based lines already offer voltage in the line. Companies like qwest and sbc send voltage through the lines when a number is contacted thats how the phone rings. Just like cable telephony. They require 110 volts outa thier taps inorder for the phones to work. Thats why phones that dont have power cords still have lights that light up on the phone. So in short..if your power goes out with verizon or sbc..you can still us eit..if it goes out with comcast cable & cox cable telephone services over their system you will still have phone. If you lose powere with vontage you have no phone. | |
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 |  |   Go Chargers7 Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle Premium join:2002-09-24 Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: buh bye SBC Did you just skip reading the thread? Perhaps you should read the entire thread before commenting or at least bother reading the post you're replying to »Re: buh bye SBC . Cordless phones and a majority of high feature lucent phones (like my 854's at my office) require 110v service. How do you expect to run a cordless phone without a base station? Sure...if I ran K-Mart phones they would work if Verizon bothered to fix all the other issues I had. Most people aren't going to keep a POS cheapy phone in a drawer in case of an emergency. Most likely they'll have an answering machine phone and a cordless. If you how is on fire...and you precious 110v phone is on the other side of the house...you're going to risk getting it? Of course not...you're going to follow the instructions of the fire dept., GTFO and call from next door. For other emergencies...you're talking about a lot of things happening at once...that just don't happen. For burglary, there is damn little between the perp and your NID, one snip and all of your phones are dead...meanwhile my VoIP service is safely underground via coax or wireless from a WISP antenna on the roof. After your phones are dead...sure, a burglar alarm could work...but that same burglar alarm is available with cellular backup which I had anyway. 911...speed dial then tell them your address just as you would with cellular. So now what emergencies are we reduced to...what far fetched situations are required to justify the existence of POTS? Bad BB provider...that's about it. With a little thought...just a little...all of these far fetched RBOC shill proposed situations can be taken care of.
Again...if you had bothered reading the post you're replying to...as I explained...I have no issues with a power outage should it occur. I make allowances for it just like it did for my unreliable POTS service. Of course in the 5 years I've lived at my current residence, we've never had a power failure...yet Verizon had problems regularly to make up for it. -- When yer a pioneer, you're bound to get a few arrows in the butt. [text was edited by author 2003-02-27 08:41:58] | |
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 Mr_Hanky00
join:2003-02-25 Riverton, NJ | I dont believe that at all!
I see this technology has a future. and also can now get cable regulated which is what I want. The only downfall is that this vonage may cost more then bells crap if the FCC gets their way and regulates this. | |
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 |   Go Chargers7 Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle Premium join:2002-09-24 Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: buh bye SBC said by Mr_Hanky00 : I dont believe that at all!
I see this technology has a future. and also can now get cable regulated which is what I want. The only downfall is that this vonage may cost more then bells crap if the FCC gets their way and regulates this.
Forget it, look at his IP, he's a BellAtlantic shill. RBOCs suck. -- When yer a pioneer, you're bound to get a few arrows in the butt. [text was edited by author 2003-02-26 14:03:28] | |
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 |  |   CO_Chris Premium join:2001-08-28 Broomfield, CO | Re: buh bye SBC why do people have to hide WTF?. if u like your isp then show your love if not get a real one -- AMD Duron 950Mhz/256 Ram/Win Xp Pro/EarthLink DSL 1299/109 | |
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 |  kingofdsl
join:2002-12-11 Afton, OK
| said by Mr_Hanky00 : I dont believe that at all!
I see this technology has a future. and also can now get cable regulated which is what I want. The only downfall is that this vonage may cost more then bells crap if the FCC gets their way and regulates this.
That is why the Bells are requiring their local POTS line to be live in order for you to get DSL over their copper. They see the VOIP handwriting in the wall. They will also charge super high rates ($90 and above) just to have the POTS line there to make up for the loss of money going over the VOIP. | |
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@swbell.ne | Re: buh bye SBC What are you smoking? $90.00 for pots? are you a fricken idiot, make up for losses? | |
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 |  |  |   Go Chargers7 Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle Premium join:2002-09-24 Huntington Beach, CA | Re: buh bye SBC He's just saying what the typical telco reaction will be...ripping of the customer. That's what the RBOCs are best at. -- When yer a pioneer, you're bound to get a few arrows in the butt. | |
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  sporkme drop the crantini and move it, sister Premium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ
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| said by gt1:
Bell network is a national asset and should be preserved in some form.
Sure, under glass in a museum with other dinosaurs. These morons are digging their own graves. Let's watch the cable companies take advantage of all this bickering... | |
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 clecrupt9
join:2002-01-22 GA
| said by gt1: Fa Shizzle, I am sure that speed dial will help you a lot when your electricity will go out. .
That is something to ponder. However how many of us have a cell phone laying around? VoIP cant begin to hold a candle to PSTN redundancy and reliability, but it will get there if given the chance. The reason VoIP is doing so well and will continue is partly because of its signaling. The Bell network using system seven can only do so much. | |
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 |   Go Chargers7 Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle Premium join:2002-09-24 Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: buh bye SBC Each person needs to personally evaluate their situation. Personally I have large power backups (minimally 1400VA at any 1 time), redundant broadband providers (all for other purposes, not for supporting VoIP come hell or high-water) as well as cell service so I have great confidence in maintaining my VoIP service. Someone who only has a single provider with a history of outages and high latency, no battery backup for their modem and ATA and no cell service needs to evaluate their situation to assess the risk (if any) of running only VoIP.
But this is all common sense. It's not an issue of whether or not VoIP is reliable as some RBOC shills claim it's not. It's as reliable as the BB provider you use and for the other issues as reliable as you make it -- When yer a pioneer, you're bound to get a few arrows in the butt. [text was edited by author 2003-02-26 19:20:40] | |
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  VinnyJ
@aol.com
| >>>Bell network is a national asset and should be preserved in some form. What Bell Network? The Bell System is dead, thanks to some now dead judge. TO think the Bll Network is still anything is stupid. No one think of the phone companies as the Bell Companies or the Bell System anymore. BTW im 18, and would loved it IF THE BELL SYSTEM WERE NOT BROKEN UP.... my 2 cents..... | |
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 |   HOMER SIMSON
@swbell.ne | Re: buh bye SBC "DOOOOh' Now that some cable comapanies are capping I have to give this more thought. I got to have my porn and my phone sex! | |
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