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BrianDamage
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reply to Toymaster
Re: One sided.

Intimidation of the consumer is one of the Bells' oldest tricks.
What I find funny is their reference to "creating an inefficient bureaucracy" akin to the Postal Service and Amtrak.
That's funny.
I concede that the USPS leaves something to be desired, but we do have choices.....email, Fedex, UPS, Airborne Express, DHL, etc.
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Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL

Unlike the horror stories I have read here, at least for the most part my mail ALWAYS gets delivered, even when my address has not been totally correct.

That so called survey has only one intention, to disuade the citizens involved from dumping such crappy service. IMO the take over by local govs of DSL/broadband services should happen in a whole lot of other places.

While I cannot complain to much about my service (Roadrunner), if my local gov offered the same broadband speeds for a cheaper price, you can bet your rear-end I would sign up. Of course it would all be mute if they out sourced the help desk. Because you would still end up with the same script monkeys who can only spell networking because they have heard the word so many times.


Toymaster
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said by Stumbles See Profile:
Because you would still end up with the same script monkeys who can only spell networking because they have heard the word so many times.
I agree that they should not out source the help desk. Maybe ppl need to be more informed. Question what their PUC's are doing. Me, I tend to question all my rate hikes and increase, but if that is the only provider what is a consumer to do but voice his/her opinion. Most ppl will just take it on the chin.
With the economy in a mess, I need every penny and increases or reduction in services is not a good way to bring confidence to me.
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Illiniwek
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join:2002-08-19
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reply to BrianDamage
said by BrianDamage See Profile:
we do have choices.....email, Fedex, UPS, Airborne Express, DHL, etc.

...cable, satellite, wireless, 56k, get away from the computer for 5 minutes a day to go out for a bike ride... Lots of choices for internet too. The necessity of an internet connection is not exactly up to the level of the Postal Service yet.

The vast majority of people (read: not people on this site) use their internet connection for e-mail. Then by your argument they also have the choice of USPS, FedEx, UPS, Airborne Express, DHL, etc. Of course, a lot of people use the internet for porn too. But then you've got Penthouse, Playboy, Hustler, Juggs, getting away from the computer for 5 minutes a day to find an actual woman... Lots of choices there too.

Of course SBC and AT&T are opposed to the municipal broadband. Do you all think that you're geniuses for figuring that out? If the government was trying to move into my business I'd be fighting tooth and nail too.

Yes I'm being flip, but my point is that the internet is not a necessity for life. If you don't like the prices, just don't pay for the f*cker. And if the voters are too stupid to be fooled into voting for something that they don't want because of a telephone survey, perhaps it is time to bring back literacy tests for voter registration.
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lxAstrosxl
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said by Illiniwek See Profile:
said by BrianDamage See Profile:
we do have choices.....email, Fedex, UPS, Airborne Express, DHL, etc.

...cable, satellite, wireless, 56k, get away from the computer for 5 minutes a day to go out for a bike ride... Lots of choices for internet too. The necessity of an internet connection is not exactly up to the level of the Postal Service yet.

The vast majority of people (read: not people on this site) use their internet connection for e-mail. Then by your argument they also have the choice of USPS, FedEx, UPS, Airborne Express, DHL, etc. Of course, a lot of people use the internet for porn too. But then you've got Penthouse, Playboy, Hustler, Juggs, getting away from the computer for 5 minutes a day to find an actual woman... Lots of choices there too.

Of course SBC and AT&T are opposed to the municipal broadband. Do you all think that you're geniuses for figuring that out? If the government was trying to move into my business I'd be fighting tooth and nail too.

Yes I'm being flip, but my point is that the internet is not a necessity for life. If you don't like the prices, just don't pay for the f*cker. And if the voters are too stupid to be fooled into voting for something that they don't want because of a telephone survey, perhaps it is time to bring back literacy tests for voter registration.

I guess we might aswell get rid of telephones and cell phones also, because its easier and healthier to write a letter and give it to the postman to take weeks to deliver. We might aswell get rid of TV and Newspaper aswell, because we don't need to know whats happenining in our current world. We dont need cars and planes either because.....its bad for the atmosphere, and its more healthier to walk 30 to 20,000miles, we dont need no stinkin medicine!! because it wasn't born with us that means we dont need to , we will get better all on our own!! Oh shit look at that my hand just got torn off, no need to go to some fancy hospital with new technology, ill just go on over to grandma's house and wait for her to finish stichtin up her dress so i can be next in line, cuz hell this trail of blood im leaving behind sure doesn't bring out the yellow carpets!!. Oh your oh so right, those arent necesities in life, we don't need them to have better and time consuming lives. Dude....without the internet, things would hundreds of time slower. Companies wouldnt be able to settle deals intime or shipments couldn't be made in time. putting lives at risk because of nutin haven certain necesities in life delivered so she/he can survive longer. Yea dont wanna mess with mother nature man. Give me a break, if it wasnt for the internet, you wouldn't be here posting this crap. Hell with the dumb sh!t you just posted you could of been outside now taking a 5minute stroll round the block!!


Illiniwek
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said by lxAstrosxl See Profile:

I guess we might aswell get rid of telephones and cell phones also, because its easier and healthier to write a letter and give it to the postman to take weeks to deliver. We might aswell get rid of TV and Newspaper aswell, because we don't need to know whats happenining in our current world. We dont need cars and planes either because.....its bad for the atmosphere, and its more healthier to walk 30 to 20,000miles, we dont need no stinkin medicine!! because it wasn't born with us that means we dont need to
You completely just proved my point. You're right, we don't need TV, Newspaper, cars, or planes. And have you noticed that the government isn't trying to get into any of those businesses? Have you noticed that those businesses aren't regulated? You're offbase talking about businesses using the internet. Nobody here is talking about that; we're talking about residential broadband. Why does everyone here thing that SBC or Comcast or BLS or Time Warner owes you a broadband connection at a price that you want? If you don't like the prices, stay on 56k! I pay $46 per month for my internet connection and I don't mind at all. If it was $100, I'd be back on NetZero. The market is completely able to handle broadband pricing, and we don't need government interference. This is a bunch of left-wing propaganda, and I hate when my favorite site (DSLR) turns into a commie rag.
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lxAstrosxl
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Maggs
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Woodside, NY
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·RCN CABLE

reply to BrianDamage
Post Office & Amtrak Mandate

Hey the Post Office & Amtrak service are required under federal regulations to serve almost all areas of the nation despite profitability. Your options include:

If you don't want to take the train: fly, bus, car
If you don't want to mail through USPS: FedEx,UPS, DHL, Airborne Express
If you don't want to pay high cable internet service prices: DSL because with cable there is no regulation on internet service since the Cable Act never took that into consideration.

The Cable Act should be rewritten to include regulation and oversight regarding cable internet services since it is provided through a regulated monopoly. This regulation in effect now only applies basically to cable television service, although the cable companies look for sweet provisions that help them and try to apply it to their situation. This is unfair due to the fact that consumers have absolutely no recourse whatsoever if a cable company fails to provide reasonable service. The only option is to discontinue service altogether.

Citizens & consumers who believe this is not right should contact their local franchising authority to determine whether the cable companies are in full compliance with their franchising agreements. Also, a provision should be written into the franchise agreement detailing the actions that will be taken if you do not adequately provide service to X number of subscribers. This new agreement should have a penalties section detailing the fines that a cable company would pay if they fail to effectively meet provisions except in the cases of technological failures.

This post is in regards to cable internet services.

napframe

join:2002-01-20
North Hollywood, CA
reply to lxAstrosxl
Re: One sided.

Companies can do all those things with dialup!


lxAstrosxl
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said by napframe See Profile:
Companies can do all those things with dialup!
we'e talkin bout the net all together.

TheTruest

join:2003-02-18
Los Angeles, CA

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OC256Busta

join:2002-10-25
Houston, TX
 reply to Illiniwek
I sure do agree with the part of getting away from the computer for fresh air!
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