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@205.232.x.x | Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it Sony is a member (i.e. they ARE) of the RIAA and MPAA. What this means is they have DRM measures nearly in place to stop piracy. So, now they will "allow" broadband to be recognized as having a future. Or something to that effect. | |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH | Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it A lot of Japanese companies are kind of schizophrenic about DRM. The content guys want to lock it down; the hardware guys want to sell widgets. | |
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thecapn20003
join:2002-01-15
Brownsburg, IN | Sure then can sue...but how can they force them to show up in court?...and then how do you enforce any court ruling?...This should be fun to watch. | |
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NOVA_Guy
Obama- Commander in Thief
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| said by tschmidt  :
We have two competing forces.
The technology and communication industry see widespread deployment of broadband as the driver of new business opportunity....
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The 5 mega media corporations represented the RIAA and MPAA that are deathly afraid of losing control of the distribution channel....
You may have framed the competing sides to this debate properly, but you have forgotten the relative sizes of the two industries.
The revenue of all technology companies combined far outweighs the combined revenue of all RIAA member companies. Let's face it: if the technology sector formed an alliance similar to the RIAA and decided that DRM was a bad thing, Rosen and her thugs would be handily defeated.
I believe that the rumblings we heard last year from the technology industry that were somewhat directed at the music industry is just a first. I think that when the technology industry-- and consumers-- get a full picture of what the MPAA and RIAA want, there will be a massive cry about fair use rights. I just hope this full picture doesn't come into focus too late for most stakeholders involved.
The RIAA and MPAA aren't necessarily opposed to everyone having a broadband connection; they are just opposed to the free movement of their "property" without their explicit "permission" at any time. If both organizations had their way, this would likely include the total control of content delivered over radio, television, pay-per-view, movie rentals, and anything else media-related. I can easily see them pushing for a world in which content is encrypted and digitally delivered to a device in your home, which checks to ensure that you are authorized to view the delivered content prior to showing it.
The MPAA would finally be able to prevent people from copying movies when they rent them. The RIAA would possibly be able to prevent people from copying songs off the radio. And traditional non-copy-protected CDs, of course, would not be playable on the new "trusted" DRM-compliant systems. Hacking any of these new systems, or supplying help, technical information, etc. about these systems would be deemed a crime. Think it can't be made so? Just look at the crap that was pulled with DivX.
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join:2001-10-15
Midlothian, VA | Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it It was the disc....divx is another name for the mp4 codec, so when you see downloads for a divx player, it refers to a media player that will play videos encoded in mp4. | |
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join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs:  | Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it Thanks, I barely remember those disc's on the shelf, but I am familiar with DivX as the mp4 codec. Seems like every video downloaded is encoded in it. | |
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NOVA_Guy
Obama- Commander in Thief
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| said by xrobertcmx :
Call me out of touch, but what happened with DivX? Is this the DivX DVD disc that floped? or the Codec?
I wasn't necessarily referring to DivX being dead, but what the government did with it. If I recall correctly, didn't they make hacking DivX copy protection-- or even providing information/instructions or software to do it-- a crime? That's what I'm opposed to more than anything else. I see no reason why the government or any media company should feel they have the right to control the storage or playback method of content that I have legally purchased from them. If I buy a CD, I've bought a license to listen to the music on it, and should be able to listen to said music on my computer, my car stereo, my MP3 player, my home stereo, etc., etc. The same with video-- if I buy a movie, it shouldn't matter whether I watch it on VHS, DVD, or rip it and convert it to a format that I can watch on my PocketPC. But that just isn't the case with DivX... 
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX
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| Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it You have to write many times over before your rep will ever actually see your letter with his/her own eyes.
They have legions of assistants to wade through all of the letters.
You have to be pushy and aggressive.
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AkumalDave
Life's A Beach
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join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN
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...unless they work together on industry-wide open standards.
Are we to assume that SONY has learned their lesson from the BetaMax? I guess they have licensed other manufacturers for Memory Stick technology, but it took awhile.
Hey, if they can make broadband as quick, easy and inexpensive as water flowing from the tap - more power to 'em!
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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Rowlett, TX
clubs: | Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it Yeah, as long as whatever standards become standards, they are Sony standards.
I question their sincerity. | |
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redtwister
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| Don't forget, Beta largely lost out not simply because it was proprietary, but because the porn industry went with VHS. With DVD, porn was 7% of titles but 25% of sales in 2001. Like the Internet, video mediums are driven by porn as well as technology and proprietary issues. If it was just the proprietary nature of beta, Microsoft would have been out a long time ago.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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| Re: Not if the RIAA and MPAA can prevent it No, beta lost out because Sony wouldn't license it.
Toshiba licensed VHS to anybody and everybody.
That's why it came out on top. Superiority has nothing to do with it.
Video was comparable, but the audio quality of beta was far superior.
Arrogance is what sent that format into oblivion.
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Part Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
clubs:
| said by tschmidt :
We have two competing forces.
The technology and communication industry
vs.
The 5 mega media corporations represented the RIAA and MPAA
»www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue6_2/odlyzko/
Andrew Odlyzko, formerly from Bell Labs and now at University of Minnesota makes a point that the phone companies make in two weeks what Hollywood takes in in a full year.
Compared to the consumer electronics and telecommunication industries, media companies are farts in a whirlwind.
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