IGGY
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Re: Insight AUP Violation
I've yet to see this email in my Inbox. But if they try to kill P2P usage. That would be like shooting themselves in the foot. Whether they ( or others ) like it. P2P is the "killer app" that started all the hype for broadband. An ftp server, game server, P2P should all be allowed. Within reason. My opinion only. If in fact usage levels were effected by this. They could charge a $10 flat fee to the customer. For the higher usage. All this should be clearly stated. In sign up material, the website, and with customer service reps. DSL providers don't whine about this type of usage. So cable companies are going to have to learn. If this is a question of excessive usage. Then as I stated above. Charge the customer a higher flat fee. For the extra usage. Punishing your high end user. For using the connection they pay for. To it's max. Shouldn't result in punishment. Don't they realize shutting these people down. Is killing there biggest fan. Word of mouth can kill a company. And if the competition doesn't cry about this. Then you lose a customer to the competition. Instead of fighting this. Insight should learn to adapt! Instead of being cry babies. They should change there business model to adapt. They shut down uncappers. Which I understand. But it's in a way stupid. You've just killed a high usage customer. Who in most cases. Would be glad to pay more for the higher speed. Most people uncap. Because of the horrible upload caps. Most of these people have asked for tiered service. And have stated they would pay more. But the cable companies have yet to adapt. So out of frustration. People uncap. Without competition! The consumer will have to keep putting up with millions of restrictions. Funny how they promote broadband as more then web surfing & email. But when you do more than just that. They punish you. They need to get off there backside! Stop talking about the revolution. And start releasing the new services they brag about all time. Such as tiered service! They also need to face reality! P2P pays there bills. And for the record! NO = I rarely use these type of services. But have been a beta tester for several companies. Who do in fact offer such services.
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I posted before about running a game server "within reason" like once or twice a week. Personally I think that should be allowed. As far as P2P file sharing apps, I can understand why they would want to block those, since they are usually sharing illegal stuff. You are right though about it being a reason for broadband's popularity.
btw, I get hits on FTP and some ports that I think are for P2P apps almost every night, and I have never run any of those kind of programs here, so Insight might be scanning for open ports like 2kmaro said. |
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hockeyfun1$
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New Hartford, NY | What kind of server is it that you are running? |
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@insightBB.com | I am not running a server, I'm afriad of them booting me off for something stupid like a once-a-week game server with some friends. |
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hockeyfun1$
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New Hartford, NY | A Game Server is still a server. 
Why would they send you the letter then? Does the game use a lot of bandwidth? What port does the gaming server run on? |
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IGGY
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I have no doubt. They are doing auto scans. But the question is? Where does this all end. I can name several legit uses for all the things they like to block. And again. They state you can use your broadband for this & that. They hype how broadband is more than email & web surfing. Then punish you. When you use your connection. For what they advertised you could use it for. If your not running a 24/7 server. Or downloading or uploading gigs of data a month. Then I can't see why they would snap. And if someone is using to much bandwidth. Give them a choice. Either pay more. Or no service. Seems very simple to me. There competition is definitely a lot more liberal on game servers etc. If Insight & others. Continue they way they have. They will in fact loose business. And several post in this forum. Show they have lost customers. And don't seem to eager to keep them. It's sad how little power the consumer has in all this.
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hockeyfun1$
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New Hartford, NY | But not everyone runs servers. It's only a small percentage that wont have much of an impact if they lose them or not. |
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IGGY
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|  I don't agree. If you count all the P2P users. You start booting them. You will see a big dent in the end year results. And if they continue to not listen. To customers who have requested. For a long time. That there be a choice of bandwidth packages. They will continue to loose customers. As several post here have shown. There hasn't been a mass revolt true. Mostly do to the fact. That competition is limited. As well as choice. But if DSL & others. Started to truly compete. With speed, price, availability & no contract. You would in fact start to see a lot users. Who would in fact drop cable. Especially if the DSL providers remained liberal. And again. Where does this stop? MIRC,IQC,PALTALK & others could all be considered servers. Even though they have other uses. So where does it stop?
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hey sorry to confuse everyone but I am not the Busted that started this topic, I had a separate post a week or so ago about servers to get opinion on it
anyway, I flat out asked the tech support in an email about my little situation of wanting to host a server once or twice a week for some games
They said to just make sure the ports are firewalled when not in use so they don't get picked up as an active server.
So that should answer the questions if there were any. Insight does do port scanning on higher bandwidth usage clients. |
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hockeyfun1$
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New Hartford, NY | So if you are running a firewall wouldn't you see a few thousand alerts (or the max it shows) from the same address probably? |
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