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Re: [OS X] NASA's control room flooded with Macs during Mars Cur Wasn’t there a similar thread here not too long ago about Engineers or was it college professors,….this is just a repeat of that. I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses or maybe what kind of wrench your plumber prefers. |
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Baton Rouge, LA | said by Octavean:Wasn’t there a similar thread here not too long ago about Engineers or was it college professors,….this is just a repeat of that. I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses or maybe what kind of wrench your plumber prefers.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt any of these NASA employees are running Vista. Besides, isn't this a Mac forum?
Try The Cooler for who gives a fat rat's patootie on the footwear. As for the wrenches, plumbers are near unanimously loyal to one name: Ridgid. |
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1 edit | said by sfogliatelle:said by Octavean:Wasn’t there a similar thread here not too long ago about Engineers or was it college professors,….this is just a repeat of that. I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses or maybe what kind of wrench your plumber prefers.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt any of these NASA employees are running Vista. Besides, isn't this a Mac forum? Try The Cooler for who gives a fat rat's patootie on the footwear. As for the wrenches, plumbers are near unanimously loyal to one name: Ridgid. I wouldn't know about the Vista thing,...why dont you ask the one guy in the picture using the IBM ThinkPad,..... 
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Ahhhh,…..
Here’s the thread I was referring to earlier:
»Physicists prefer Macs
It was “Physicists prefer Macs”. Somehow I remembered it as Engineers. |
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| said by Octavean:I wouldn't know about the Vista thing,...why dont you ask the one guy in the picture using the IBM ThinkPad,.....
lenovo thinkpad. He's probably the manager.
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said by Octavean: I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses ....
More like what sneaker the gold medal winner wore! Serious running requires serious footwear, serious science requires serious computers.
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| said by TamaraB:said by Octavean: I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses ....
serious science requires serious computers. Seems unlikely. I don't see any Unix laptops 
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I have yet to figure out the big deal about this; it's like the "You wouldn't want your doctor to do your job?" ads. What do physicsts know about computers? They know about phyiscs, and know very little about software and computers, other than how to do certain things on them. The intelligence community for a long time used Unix as their OS of choice from what I hear (still do I bet).
said by JohnInSJ:said by TamaraB:said by Octavean: I see this more like what kind of sneakers an Olympic athlete endorses ....
serious science requires serious computers. Seems unlikely. I don't see any Unix laptops Indeed, I also see a serious lack of compute power (where is the IBM System Z?). |
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said by JohnInSJ:Seems unlikely. I don't see any Unix laptops
Duh..... OSX is bsd unix. |
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I would not be shocked if the Thinkpad is running Linux. In fact one of the video screens had the thumbnails in what appeared to be some kind of Linux windowing system and not OSX or Win.(did not have the standard orbs of OSX or the dash, box, X of windows.
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said by TamaraB:said by JohnInSJ:Seems unlikely. I don't see any Unix laptops
Duh..... OSX is bsd unix. No, it's not. It's darwin. I'd say OSX is NExT, but that will just piss off the purists MacZelots.
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3 edits | said by JohnInSJ:No, it's not. It's darwin. I'd say OSX is NExT, but that will just piss off the purists MacZelots.
Without getting into irrelevant semantics, OSX is a "NIX" OS. I have recently moved from more than two decades of using SCO, Solaris, HPUX, Linux, netbsd, and FreeBSD to a couple of Macs running OSX. Every one of my bash scripts run flawlessly, while there are some minor differences between my old BSD boxes and OSX, mainly in file system layout, OSX is essentially identical. Not so much with Linux, but the provenance to BSD is unmistakeable.
I am new to macs, only about 4 months, but the transition from BSD and Linux to OSX was the most seamless transition I have ever experienced; and that includes moving to and from SCO UNIX/Zenix, Solaris, and HPUX (I have almost NO experience with crap Windowz).
These Macs are NIX machines. Call them by whatever name you like, but they are NIX machines with a marvelously working GUI (as compared with every other X-Windows based NIX I have used in the past).
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| said by howardfine:In fact, they are certified Unix.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_X
"OS X is based upon the Mach kernel. Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the graphical, object-oriented, and UNIX-based operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985.[12] While Jobs was away from Apple, Apple tried to create a "next-generation" OS through the Taligent, Copland and Gershwin projects, with little success.[13]
Eventually, NeXT's OS, then called OPENSTEP, was selected to be the basis for Apple's next OS, and Apple purchased NeXT outright."
So, as I said, it's NExT. But that mach kernel is horrible, compared to a decent unix kernel.
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| So was NExTStep. I'm guessing most of those folks don't spend much time in the shell though. So it's as Unix as Android is Linux, I guess.
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said by JohnInSJ:So was NExTStep. I'm guessing most of those folks don't spend much time in the shell though.
You guess wrong. I spend most of my computer time at the shell. I manage a dozen or so NIX boxes (mostly Linux servers, which run most of the Internet) remotely. Methinks you know not of what you speak.
Software I wrote decades ago in Pascal, ran under Linux, and now, re-compiled under FreePascal, runs under OSX. You obviously don't know what you are yammering about.
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Why would it piss them off? It's well known that OS X was originally Rhapsody which was based on OpenStep which was started from NeXTStep.
OS X is certified UNIX. It doesn't matter one bit whether people login with >console and never use the GUI or if they use the GUI 24/7. It's still a UNIX OS.
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I see about a dozen! |
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said by Thinkdiff:Why would it piss them off? It's well known that OS X was originally Rhapsody which was based on OpenStep which was started from NeXTStep.
OS X is certified UNIX. It doesn't matter one bit whether people login with >console and never use the GUI or if they use the GUI 24/7. It's still a UNIX OS.
Ok, it's a unix os, and all the cool kids have them. Everyone knows OS X is unix based, that's why they choose Macs in the first place. And clearly, it makes for awesome Mars landings.
Forgive me. I shall go buy another Mac right now
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