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Re: [WWDC] Thread Time!

Wonder if we'll see the new iPhone at WWDC. I am guessing not, but at the same time if they are announcing iOS 6 and programming changes and the ratio of the iPhone screen is changing it would seem logical to give developers a heads up. Maybe the 4S will break the trend set by the 4->4S and prior models of 12 months or longer between releases. Apple would only benefit I think by keeping up with all the Android devices. Of course I would like to wait for an A6 processor rather than the A5X just because I want the newer generation of ARM processors in my next iPhone

We should definitely see some new Mac hardware next week. I'm still getting good use out of my '08 MacPro after upgrading various components, think I'm waiting for Retina display iMacs.
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Well... I wouldn't exactly call the Mac Pros new... They should just discontinue it. Really.

They clearly would if there was no market for them, they nixed the 17" MBP today... Not sure why they didn't go to a solution that would allow for Thunderbolt, it's the only Mac without them now.

Ok, is it just me, or is the Mac Pro "upgrade" a joke?

• No Thunderbolt
• No USB 3.0
• No SATA 3 (6gbps) hard drives
• 2 year old Video Cards
• No Hardware RAID option
• No Sandy Bridge-E (Xeons are LGA1366 not LGA2011)

To me this is just a modest spec bump in terms of base clock speeds and memory.

Absolute freakin joke, Apple, to demand this sort of money for 2+ year old technology. Even if it is in a purdy aluminum case...
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Apple should just drop it

reply to HiVolt
Very puzzling upgrade. Either they are really going to cut it loose after this iteration or they're planning a major redesign and it just wasn't ready yet. There's no way they've spent over a year doing nothing.
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Agreed Td. Feels like something "just wasn't ready" that's why they didn't even mention it in the Keynote. This feels very "stop gap-ish" to me. I'm guessing the next Mac Pro will be smaller and is requiring a very significant redesign of the internals that is giving them some difficulty for one reason or another. Quite likely designing the new MBP-retina occupied a lot of their engineering staff and they weren't able to dedicate enough people to make it happen today so they went with a solution that could be "dropped" into the existing design. Who knows if the rumored AppleTV is further slowing things down.
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I don't think they can wait another year for WWDC. Mac Pro is practically obsolete now in terms of specs and current technology.

If they can squeeze it out within 3-4 months, that could be worth the wait if the end result is something that will truly be spectacular, for example

• Convertible Tower & Rackmount chassis
• Dual GPU support
• Sandy Bridge-E
• USB 3.0 (even if not native, so what)
• 4 Thunderbolt ports (3 back, 1 front)
• Harware RAID built in (no $800 insult for a 4 port card)
• Redundant power supply option for the Server version.

At my work we need to run OS X as a server for some applications we have... Right now the Mac Pro has no power or disk redundancy. Disk Utility software raid is retarded and there isn't a way to set up a notification of disk failure or predicted failure. No RAID 5/6 option either.

Unfortunately we never bought an XServe when they were still around. And we dont want to buy a used one with no warranty or support.

Apple is really pissing me off with this.
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Let's just flip it around, though. Of all the other Macs offered are there any that are faster than this new upgraded Mac Pro?

I do agree with the rack mount thing though. Not having a rack mount is keeping them out of lots of data centers, ours at least.

From MacRumors

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Update: A MacRumors reader writes in to share an email he received from Apple CEO Tim Cook after he asked about the future of the Mac Pro:

Our pro customers are really important to us...don't worry as we're working on something really great for later next year.

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reply to Brendan
Part of apple's success is they have always depended in small highly skilled teams to accomplish tasks rather than giant bloated departments.

reply to HiVolt
Hopefully he means Jan 2013...

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reply to HiVolt
I posted almost exactly this yesterday on reddit's apple sub forum and got up to a -17 right now. I then prompted decided to delete my account.

They're more rabid than you guys are.
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reply to HiVolt
I’m not sure you can buy an Intel Ivy Bridge based laptop anywhere else now. Sounds like a bigger feather in Apple’s cap then I initially thought given the availability.

However, the Mac Pro line is a bit of a blemish. Its very disappointing to see that Apple hasn’t moved on to the Sandy Bridge-E / Sandy Bridge-EP platform in this space. It would be my hope that Apple is waiting for Intel to update the X79 or C602 chipset but it doesn’t look good either way.

I agree that a significant price drop should have been in order given the age of the platform and lack of features.

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