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Re: Acanac IPTV hopefully by July Are they looking for feedback? Is Acanac customer exclusivity temporary? (I'm not switching ISPs just for TV...)
Are they selling packages?
All I am looking for is a la carte HD news, sports and foreign language channels. |
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| said by BliZZardX:Are they selling packages?
All I am looking for is a la carte HD news, sports and foreign language channels.
They'll probably have to have a base package like cable and satellite providers are required to have - probably falling under the cable variation on the rules (or something similar), rather than the satellite ones. |
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I think a la carte is what everyone wants - there were some discussions over on the other forum about it - but until they launch it's just a guessing game. As far as I know it's only for their own subscribers.
I was mainly just alerting peeps that it may become available..something to look forward to! I'll try and post the link here, maybe it'll stick,
»community.acanac.com/acanac/view···f14b08a6
any questions you might have, have likely been asked and answered there.
As for switching providers just for TV - I would - I don't care who I'm with..who ever has the best price has my business. |
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| said by jackie999:I think a la carte is what everyone wants And not that fake a la carte Rogers trialed in london... Have a base package of just the local networks (CTV, Global, CBC, maybe the weather network, CTV2, TVO, SRC) for something like $10 and charge $2 a channel on top or $5 for "Premium" channels like the movie network.
And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service... |
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| said by BGB:said by jackie999:I think a la carte is what everyone wants And not that fake a la carte Rogers trialed in london... Have a base package of just the local networks (CTV, Global, CBC, maybe the weather network, CTV2, TVO, SRC) for something like $10 and charge $2 a channel on top or $5 for "Premium" channels like the movie network. And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service... When ever possible we will allow a la carte plans. As for the restrictions on the Acanac and Distributel network it's not our choice. Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. |
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| said by Acanac Inc:Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. Someone should appeal.. that's ridiculous
I guess piracy wins again |
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| said by BliZZardX:said by Acanac Inc:Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. Someone should appeal.. that's ridiculous I guess piracy wins again That's absurd... again this guarantees Bell and the ILECs remain in the equation.
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kudos:1 | said by El Quintron:said by BliZZardX:said by Acanac Inc:Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. Someone should appeal.. that's ridiculous I guess piracy wins again That's absurd... again this guarantees Bell and the ILECs remain in the equation. Screw that. Can't you guys (Acanac/Distributel) just offer off-network service for an extra $5-$10? Who cares what the CRTC says? I mean, they're saying that you guys need to bundle internet to get TV, yet Bell, Rogers, Videotron, Shaw, and Cogeco are allowed to offer TV as a standalone service? (I do realize that Bell forces a bundle on Fibe TV)
EDIT: At the rates that the CRTC allowed to be charged by Robellustron, that's punishment enough for running an IPTV service. |
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said by El Quintron:said by BliZZardX:said by Acanac Inc:Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. Someone should appeal.. that's ridiculous I guess piracy wins again That's absurd... again this guarantees Bell and the ILECs remain in the equation. Not really.. just buy the online rights to the media like Netflix does and you don't fall under the BDU regulations. |
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| said by mlerner:Not really.. just buy the online rights to the media like Netflix does and you don't fall under the BDU regulations.
Theoretically you are correct, but then the question begs what's the difference between IPTV and TV available online?
If you're going that route, then why would I pay you when I can just watch CTV from their own website?
Broad examples but you get the idea...
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| Guys in every other country, IPTV is on switched ethernet and separated by VLAN tags.
You can run a private network WITHOUT simultaneously forcing people to subscribe to the same ISP
Bell Internet + Wholesale Internet = VLAN ID 35
Bell IPTV = VLAN ID 36
Acanac IPTV = VLAN 37
ABC IPTV = VLAN 38
DEF IPTV = VLAN 39
GHI IPTV = VLAN 40
JKL IPTV = VLAN 41
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kudos:5 | Yeah and this is Canada. The incumbents don't want us to have a competing service. I imagine Bell will have some tricks up its sleeve to ensure the worst experience for Acanac IPTV. |
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| said by mlerner:Yeah and this is Canada. The incumbents don't want us to have a competing service. I imagine Bell will have some tricks up its sleeve to ensure the worst experience for Acanac IPTV.
Yah I seem to recall something about them asking for the tariff to explicitly not include multicast abilities...
No regulatory capture here at all, move along...
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Kanata, ON | reply to Acanac Inc
said by Acanac Inc:said by BGB:...
And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service... When ever possible we will allow a la carte plans. As for the restrictions on the Acanac and Distributel network it's not our choice. Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. What on earth is the CRTC's logic behind this, fear of signal theft? Presumably there will be some end-to-end encryption of the signal on a per-subscriber basis. Assuming that the security framework is at least as good as satellite or wireless BDU encryption (remember Look TV?), an over-the-top service would be more secure since one has to gain access to the encrypted signal which is trivial in the case of satellite.
Count me as a customer who would have loved to sign up, but won't do so if it means changing my Internet service. |
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1 edit | said by rosenqui:said by Acanac Inc:said by BGB:...
And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service... When ever possible we will allow a la carte plans. As for the restrictions on the Acanac and Distributel network it's not our choice. Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network. What on earth is the CRTC's logic behind this, fear of signal theft? Presumably there will be some end-to-end encryption of the signal on a per-subscriber basis. Assuming that the security framework is at least as good as satellite or wireless BDU encryption (remember Look TV?), an over-the-top service would be more secure since one has to gain access to the encrypted signal which is trivial in the case of satellite. Count me as a customer who would have loved to sign up, but won't do so if it means changing my Internet service. I think the CRTC is trying to make sure the signal doesnt leave the bell network.
Well, Acanac does have a free VPN service with their internet services.
Could that get you onto their "closed" network when "away from home"?
Maybe Acanac could use this loophole.... perhaps charge a small fee to get onto the network through VPN.... |
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| We had to provide detailed network diagrams on how our service would be offered. I don't believe we can get away with a VPN.
With that said it not just restricted to Bell's GAS service. Cable clients through TPIA will also be able to gain access.
Why these specific rules are in place is a bit before my time. I am assuming it was required because encryption was not a standard feature. As for our offerings every channel is encrypted end to end.
Something to bring up to the CRTC in the near future. |
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