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| sheep's clothing classic cartoons really tell about life's stories.. evil & bad intentions are easily uncovered for what they are.. new industry law in sheep's clothing... or grandma's old rags.
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | This law is about sharing cybersecurity techniques and information FROM the government TO industry and not the other way around. All those trying to claim otherwise, in their anti-government paranoia are reading things in to the law that are not there. And that is why all major industry players support it. |
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| said by Linklist: And that is why all major industry players support it.
Names of the Major industry players please or a link to a listing of those major players?
said by Linklist:This law is about sharing cybersecurity techniques and information FROM the government TO industry and not the other way around.
Are you 100% sure that it is FROM the government and TO industry?? And not another two way street? As from my take I would rather trust the security industry over Government when it comes to cybersecurity. |
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wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to Linklist
said by Linklist:This law is about sharing cybersecurity techniques and information FROM the government TO industry and not the other way around. All those trying to claim otherwise, in their anti-government paranoia are reading things in to the law that are not there. And that is why all major industry players support it.
Right.... That's what this line says. Which bill are you reading?
‘(ii) share such cyber threat information with any other entity designated by such protected entity, including, if specifically designated, the Federal Government. |
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA | reply to Linklist
Riiiiiiiiight. You're wrong.
Things like this are why I have guns and a VPN service.
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Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to celtictoad13
said by celtictoad13:said by Linklist: And that is why all major industry players support it.
Names of the Major industry players please or a link to a listing of those major players? »torrentfreak.com/cispa-bill-lets···-120409/
In recent weeks CISPA has gained support from over 100 lawmakers in Congress, anti-piracy lobby groups such as the BSA and US Chamber of Commerce, but also tech companies including Facebook, Microsoft and Verizon.
Letters in Support
AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc:said by Linklist:This law is about sharing cybersecurity techniques and information FROM the government TO industry and not the other way around. All those trying to claim otherwise, in their anti-government paranoia are reading things in to the law that are not there. And that is why all major industry players support it.
Right.... That's what this line says. Which bill are you reading? ‘(ii) share such cyber threat information with any other entity designated by such protected entity, including, if specifically designated, the Federal Government. What part of the INTENT of the law don't you understand? A phrase saying the government gets some feedback on their sharing efforts doesn't change the intent of the law. Only those who see evil everywhere read more in to this law than is there. |
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fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA | said by Linklist:What part of the INTENT of the law don't you understand? A phrase saying the government gets some feedback on their sharing efforts doesn't change the intent of the law. Only those who see evil everywhere read more in to this law than is there.
Have you actually ever lived in the US, have you actually ever noticed that INTENT doesn't mean squat when it comes to how laws are used? Try living in the real world for a change and stop the blatant shilling.
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wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to Linklist
Lets look at the overview of the law to validate its intention...
To provide for the sharing of certain cyber threat intelligence and cyber threat information between the intelligence community and cybersecurity entities, and for other purposes.
And to top it off, everyone is immune from either using this information, or not acting on it. This part is REALLY dangerous.
‘(3) EXEMPTION FROM LIABILITY- No civil or criminal cause of action shall lie or be maintained in Federal or State court against a protected entity, self-protected entity, cybersecurity provider, or an officer, employee, or agent of a protected entity, self-protected entity, or cybersecurity provider, acting in good faith--
‘(A) for using cybersecurity systems or sharing information in accordance with this section; or
‘(B) for not acting on information obtained or shared in accordance with this section. |
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Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by wentlanc:And to top it off, everyone is immune from either using this information, or not acting on it. This part is REALLY dangerous.
‘(3) EXEMPTION FROM LIABILITY- No civil or criminal cause of action shall lie or be maintained in Federal or State court against a protected entity, self-protected entity, cybersecurity provider, or an officer, employee, or agent of a protected entity, self-protected entity, or cybersecurity provider, acting in good faith--
‘(A) for using cybersecurity systems or sharing information in accordance with this section; or
‘(B) for not acting on information obtained or shared in accordance with this section. Std Procedure in laws requiring cooperation from the public or industry now due to the scores of ambulance chasing law firms that file class action lawsuits over everything. Less of these types of lawyers and the need for clauses like this in laws would go away. |
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wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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Oh, ok... That makes me feel so much better!
(/sarcasm)
(removed my leading sarcasm flag since the system actually hid them)
You have not done a good job at selling this to anyone here yet. Writing a broadly worded BS law that includes immunity allows for it to be misused with disastrous consequences. Such as, "Yes we knew that there was going to be an attack, but did not say anything. But this law grants us protection for not doing anything!"
The law specifically allows for a legal funnel of private information to the government for any "cybersecurity" threat, which they have conveniently placed intellectual property in the definition of. Wholesale legalization of data funneling of user information to protect copyright. This would eliminate the MPAA and RIAA's need to show any proof whatsoever to obtain a warrant to get the same information. The effort is as transparent as air, and I will take my rights to due process as guaranteed by law, thanks. |
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North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:22 | reply to tmc8080
I wish they still made cartoons like that. Those classics are awesome to this day. |
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said by Linklist:Only those who see evil everywhere read more in to this law than is there. The government sees "evil" everywhere and will read more into this law than was ever intended. |
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The INTENT of the law does not matter. This intent will be skewed as much as possible to infringe on the rights of citizens and benefit crooked industries in cahoots w/ gov, as we have seen many times in the past. The LETTER of the law matters. As long as things are clearly NOT forbidding gov. to do to benefit private corps at the expense of our freedom using this proposed law, they WILL do it at some point. That is what the Constitution was written to prevent. |
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The Framers SAW the evil and tried to prevent it from coming back. It is here now, promoted shamelessly by some trying to benefit at the huge expense of us and our children's freedom. |
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 redxiiPremium,Mod
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Sherwood, MI | reply to Linklist
Why is a law needed to do that? |
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Jacksonville, FL | reply to fuziwuzi
AMEN to that!! |
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said by Linklist:said by celtictoad13:said by Linklist: And that is why all major industry players support it.
Names of the Major industry players please or a link to a listing of those major players? » torrentfreak.com/cispa-bill-lets···-120409/In recent weeks CISPA has gained support from over 100 lawmakers in Congress, anti-piracy lobby groups such as the BSA and US Chamber of Commerce, but also tech companies including Facebook, Microsoft and Verizon. » intelligence.house.gov/bill/cybe···act-2011Letters in Support
AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA - The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom - The Broadband Association
Verizon Basically most listed are offenders of some kinda privacy breach and I wouldn't trust any of them. |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Linklist
Why industry players support CISPA and not SOPA:
»lifehacker.com/5900962 |
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