 Steve BPremium
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | reply to Kristopher
Re: O.k. stuff like this has to stop said by Kristopher:But with the duopolies that exist, or just plain lack of viable alternatives, ditching one bad carrier for another is pointless. So, laws are in place, and politicians are paid off, to keep things as they are. The only real way to make a difference is to cut off service. If everyone would just cancle their data phones, and cut out their cable, then maybe changes would be made due to lack of demand. Moving that demand from one asshole to another doesn't really do jack shit.
ding ding ding! We have a winner. That's exactly it! Plus, people lives have evolved now around these things and getting rid of it isn't a viable alternative either. Its easy for the corporate kiss asses to make such judgements because they don't feel affected the way regular consumers do. |
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| said by Steve B:Plus, people lives have evolved now around these things and getting rid of it isn't a viable alternative either. Sure it is; nobody NEEDS a smartphone. People WANT them. When did we forget the difference between NEEDS vs. WANTS? Hell, plenty of people manage to scrape by with no cell phone at all while managing to live meaningful and productive lives without being reachable 24/7.
And before you say that some people NEED them for business, well in that instance your employer really ought to be paying for your service. If they are then you don't really have any grounds to complain about the carrier. My best friend is on AT&T and loathes them but given the alternative of paying for his own service vs. his employer picking up the tab he's happy to be with AT&T. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | 1) I AM my employer. Thanks for generalizing everyone.
2) You're right no one NEEDS an iPhone.. smart phone, etc. In fact, no one NEEDS anything other than food, shelter, and safe health conditions to survive.
Now.. would you like to talk about what SOCIETY becomes dependent on? ... when you're an industry that re-shapes the world, you take on a certain obligation.... just ask Mark Zuckerberg.
Little Marky built a web service that is FREE to people, yet the government places certain rules on the way he operates it. Mark isn't simply free to do EVERYTHING he'd like to do, either.
WHO picks up the tab here is irrelevant.
In THIS discussion, AT&T and they way they are being dishonest about an agreement they made with the consumer IS at hand. They ALWAYS forget that contracts are two-way. |
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said by Steve B:said by Kristopher:But with the duopolies that exist, or just plain lack of viable alternatives, ditching one bad carrier for another is pointless. So, laws are in place, and politicians are paid off, to keep things as they are. The only real way to make a difference is to cut off service. If everyone would just cancle their data phones, and cut out their cable, then maybe changes would be made due to lack of demand. Moving that demand from one asshole to another doesn't really do jack shit.
ding ding ding! We have a winner. That's exactly it! Plus, people lives have evolved now around these things and getting rid of it isn't a viable alternative either. Its easy for the corporate kiss asses to make such judgements because they don't feel affected the way regular consumers do.
Why getting rid of "it" isn't an alternative? Assuming the "it" you are referring to are smart phones the four major carriers all carry the same smart phones. There is very little reason to stick with a carrier that you are unhappy with. |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
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Exactly. AT&T did this to themselves by continuing to grandfather people in with upgrades. They could have simply said with the iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4 or 4S, any point along the way that they aren't grandfathering them in. That leaves those who had edge phones and the vast majority would have upgraded by now.
But AT&T didn't want to lose the revenue when some of those subs flee to another carrier like Verizon. They want the money and subs but not provide the service that gets them the money and the subs. Surprise surprise. Every business would like to run that way but AT&T is one of the few that can actually get that done. |
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Yall are blaming the wrong people.... And if you don't like government, move to somalia... The purpose of government in an advanced society is to provide for its people the things that they cannot provide themselves (you know, like roads, telecommunications infrastructure, and... like... the internet). Instead of throwing your hands up cause, ya know, "they're all the same" and "I'm too lazy/stupid/self-interested/racist/successful to pay attention to politics/government" why don't you do something to change the fact that money has so thoroughly captured 1.5 of the political parties in this country? |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | said by posimosh:money has so thoroughly captured 1.5 of the political parties in this country?
you mean 4.5
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