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Cote Saint-Luc, QC
 ·ELECTRONICBOX
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Re: Discussing Bandwidth options Why are we even discussing this concept again? Electronic Box is paying Videotron for speed capacity, not data transfer.
This is like the gate analogy all over again. I pay for a 60 mbps connection and this defines the opening of my gate. Data transfer represents how many times I go back and forth through my gate. Since I am already paying for the width of my gate, I should be able to go back and forth as many times as I want!
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| said by SHY:Why are we even discussing this concept again? Electronic Box is paying Videotron for speed capacity, not data transfer. Because if everybody uses 100% of their speed capacity nobody gets any data transfer. Unless you want to pay what 60 mbps REALLY costs instead of sharing the trunk with more users than the capacity permits eBox needs a way to make sure not everyone uses 100% of their capacity, 100% of the time. Limiting the amount of monthly transfer is the easiest way to do that.
BTW 60mbps costs eBox $1,200 a month. You want your whole 60mbps with no limit whatsoever? I'm sure eBox will be more than happy to sell you a $1,300/month contract for that 60mbps. |
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Cote Saint-Luc, QC Reviews:
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| Because if everybody uses 100% of their speed capacity nobody gets any data transfer. Unless you want to pay what 60 mbps REALLY costs instead of sharing the trunk with more users than the capacity permits eBox needs a way to make sure not everyone uses 100% of their capacity, 100% of the time. Limiting the amount of monthly transfer is the easiest way to do that.
BTW 60mbps costs eBox $1,200 a month. You want your whole 60mbps with no limit whatsoever? I'm sure eBox will be more than happy to sell you a $1,300/month contract for that 60mbps.
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cogito ergo manduc »ELECTRONICBOX
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| said by SHY:Because if everybody uses 100% of their speed capacity nobody gets any data transfer. Unless you want to pay what 60 mbps REALLY costs instead of sharing the trunk with more users than the capacity permits eBox needs a way to make sure not everyone uses 100% of their capacity, 100% of the time. Limiting the amount of monthly transfer is the easiest way to do that.
BTW 60mbps costs eBox $1,200 a month. You want your whole 60mbps with no limit whatsoever? I'm sure eBox will be more than happy to sell you a $1,300/month contract for that 60mbps.
Not true. If that were true, then you wouldn't see any unlimited cable plans at all. I think there are a few of the 30 mbps cable unlimited plans out there. No? The reason there are unlimited plans is because the ISPs are betting you won't use your full bandwidth all the time, and if you do, that other users that don't use their bandwidth will subsidize for the substantial loss that they incur serving you. If the ISP gets enough people on unlimited plans with your mindset, they'd have to either cap the plan or significantly reduce its speed. Mathematically speaking it's impossible for an ISP to make money if even a small part of their unlimited plan users used their connections constantly. We can argue all day, but we can't change the laws of physics.
Many other services you use in your daily life work exactly the same way, such as any insurance you purchase, or when you go to a restaurant buffet, or when you use a public highway to drive to work. If everyone used the provided service at its maximum extent, the service would instantly fail. If there's anything that ISPs should do better is specify the limitations of unlimited plans better in their terms of service.
Now if you truly do need full speed all the time, there are providers that would be more than happy to sell you guaranteed links at whatever the going rates are these days - but it won't be 50 cents per Mbps. The true cost is many times higher. |
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said by SHY:Because if everybody uses 100% of their speed capacity nobody gets any data transfer. Unless you want to pay what 60 mbps REALLY costs instead of sharing the trunk with more users than the capacity permits eBox needs a way to make sure not everyone uses 100% of their capacity, 100% of the time. Limiting the amount of monthly transfer is the easiest way to do that.
BTW 60mbps costs eBox $1,200 a month. You want your whole 60mbps with no limit whatsoever? I'm sure eBox will be more than happy to sell you a $1,300/month contract for that 60mbps.
Not true. If that were true, then you wouldn't see any unlimited cable plans at all. I think there are a few of the 30 mbps cable unlimited plans out there. No? What do you claim is not true? The fact that eBox pays Videotron $10,000 a month for 500 mbps of bandwidth? Well Diskace said so himself on the first page of the following thread:
»CABLE port capacity
Besides those rates are filed with the CRTC, you can check with them yourself if you wish.
It's called risk and capacity management, and transfer limits are very much an essential part of those plans.
BTW have a look at all of those "unlimited" plans terms of service. I think you'll find that for every single one of them the ISP reserves the right to kick the user off the "unlimited" plan if there's abuse and/or if the user's usage disrupts the ISP's ability to provide service to the rest of their clients. "Unlimited" never really means "unlimited", unless you're paying market rate for your bandwidth allocation, which for 60 mbps is $1,200 a month. |
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