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cmaengdewd

@ldmengineering.com

reply to FF4me

Re: TSA Nude Body Scanner Program Is A Fraud

said by FF4me :

$1B of TSA Nude Body Scanners Made Worthless By Blog — How Anyone Can Get Anything Past The Scanners:

This video [on site - 4'34"] is here to demonstrate that the TSA’s insistence that the nude body scanner program is effective and necessary is nothing but a fraud, just like their claims that the program is safe (radiation what?) and non-invasive (nude pictures who?). The scanners are now effectively worthless, as anyone can beat them with virtually no effort. The TSA has been provided this video in advance of it being made public to give them an opportunity to turn off the scanners and revert to the metal detectors. I personally believe they now have no choice but to turn them off.

Please share this video with your family, friends, and most importantly, elected officials in federal government. Make sure they understand that your vote is contingent on them fixing the abuse that 200,000 passengers face from the TSA on a daily basis.

Great so now we go back to intrusive pat downs instead? What a "win" for us.


FutureMon
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What is the jist of the video? I can't watch it behind the company firewall (says it's a social networking site)

- FM



sivran
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The transcript of the video is below it on the blog site.



Rambo76098

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reply to FutureMon
That the way the scanners work (you are light colored, any objects are black, and the background is black, that all you have to do is put the contraband on the side of your body, and the object is indistinguishable from the background.

He did it with a decent size metal carrying case in a pocket he sewed onto the side of his shirt, and went thru at least 2 different airports without detection (with hidden camera footage).

Although to get around that, I'd guess the TSA would just make us all get xrayed 4 times instead of two (once for each side, and front and back).



FutureMon
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Well you'd think they'd make you stop and do a 360 degree turnaround while you were in the scanner.

- FM



NetFixer
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said by FutureMon:

Well you'd think they'd make you stop and do a 360 degree turnaround while you were in the scanner.

- FM

The next step will probably be a motor driven turntable that will slowly rotate the travelervictim until fully cooked.
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We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander.

Secyurityet

join:2012-01-07
untied state

said by NetFixer:

said by FutureMon:

Well you'd think they'd make you stop and do a 360 degree turnaround while you were in the scanner.

- FM

The next step will probably be a motor driven turntable that will slowly rotate the travelervictim until fully cooked.

Just avoid the machines with the "Sharp Carousel" logo on the front...


iknow

@optonline.net

reply to cmaengdewd

said by cmaengdewd :

said by FF4me :

$1B of TSA Nude Body Scanners Made Worthless By Blog — How Anyone Can Get Anything Past The Scanners:

This video [on site - 4'34"] is here to demonstrate that the TSA’s insistence that the nude body scanner program is effective and necessary is nothing but a fraud, just like their claims that the program is safe (radiation what?) and non-invasive (nude pictures who?). The scanners are now effectively worthless, as anyone can beat them with virtually no effort. The TSA has been provided this video in advance of it being made public to give them an opportunity to turn off the scanners and revert to the metal detectors. I personally believe they now have no choice but to turn them off.

Please share this video with your family, friends, and most importantly, elected officials in federal government. Make sure they understand that your vote is contingent on them fixing the abuse that 200,000 passengers face from the TSA on a daily basis.

Great so now we go back to intrusive pat downs instead? What a "win" for us.

at least with the patdowns, they can't post the nude pictures anywhere(they CAN!!) with the scanner.


NetFixer
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said by iknow :

at least with the patdowns, they can't post the nude pictures anywhere(they CAN!!) with the scanner.

Do you really think that they don't bring their cameras along for the body cavity searches in the room behind the curtain?
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neochu

join:2008-12-12
Windsor, ON

said by NetFixer:

Do you really think that they don't bring their cameras along for the body cavity searches in the room behind the curtain?

With the large numbers of poeple reporting what would justify as a sexual assault outside of security theatre its entirely possible.

Unless the workers themselves are searched in extreme detail zero tolerance or not a rouge employee (perv) could bring a camera in to increase their viewing.

You also have to wonder if the storage database is behind classified or un-classified machines. That could wind up still being hacked.

FF4me: Security is a game of cat and mouse. Until travel by plane becomes an "activity restricted by permit" then people will always find a way to debunk or reverse engineer security technology.


cmaengdewd

@ldmengineering.com

reply to iknow

said by iknow :

at least with the patdowns, they can't post the nude pictures anywhere(they CAN!!) with the scanner.

Everywhere at a screening checkpoint has a camera, who do you think has access to that recorded video?


FF4me

@verizon.net

reply to neochu

said by neochu:

Security is a game of cat and mouse.

True.

And, probably more importantly, it is a big profit making business opportunity and propaganda tool.

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