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Re: Anyone looking for higher end laptop? said by urbanriot:Considering my history with Asus, and my opinion that they made shit-end motherboards, with high failure rates (we'd hit around 30% one year) before the spun off to Pegatron, I was surprised to hear people commenting that their laptops were reliable. I remember back maybe eight or so years ago I ran into a lot of issues with Asus boards. I was RMAing them all the time, they'd release BIOS updates that would fry the board, etc. I didn't touch any of their products for a long time after that. Back a few years back had an Asus board with an original Phenom that was flaky at best - not RMA worthy, but a BIOS that never seemed to work right, but I managed to keep the thing running without issue most of the time. The M489GTD that I had with my X6 worked surprisingly well, and I certainly didn't seem to run into any of the odd quirks or weirdness that I typically saw with past Asus products. How the P8Z68-V is over the long term has yet to be seen, but I certainly haven't seen anything that makes me think it would have the same wonky characteristics as the M3A with the original Phenom.
Gigabyte though... I really don't know what's going on with those guys. They were typically not what I would call a real bad manufacturer like Biostar and the like used to be, but as of late their stuff has been total shit.
said by urbanriot:Personally, I feel it's inaccurate to compare brands when it's the specifications inside that count. For example, an i5 with Intel HD graphics is less likely to fail than an AMD CPU with nvidia graphics, as you're hoping the manufacturer doesn't cut corners with their heat pipe like HP did with their pavilion dv's (class action lawsuit I believe). Even though HP provided a badly engineered laptop that couldn't last more than two years, if you'd purchased an HP laptop with other specifications at the time, you'd be in fine shape. Oh god, I had so many of those HP dvs fail it's not even funny. When I was working IT we got burned because we got a laptop in to install Office, no big deal, everything worked fine. Gave it back to the customer, he got it home and it died. That same dv bullshit. Of course, we had it last, so who do you think was on the hook for it?  HP makes some of the worst junk out there (or rather, their engineering team tells OEMs to make some of the worst junk out there) that I cringe when I see anyone purchasing one. You know what works rather well that I would never for the life of me would ever make a decent product? Acer.
But like I said - most of the stuff that's out there now is manufactured by the same OEM in China, using the same Intel reference platform as everyone else. Its just the plastic enclosure and the logo that's different. The hardware is the same. What's difference is the service and warranty support they provide. Having said that, despite reading positive reviews, I would -never- trust a motherboard manufacturer when it comes to warranty on something like a laptop. They are the shadiest motherfuckers on the face of the earth. They may have worked to improve that reputation, but they're still a motherboard manufacturer, and motherboard manufacturers by definition know nothing when it comes to customer support. | | |
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| said by Gone:Gigabyte though... I really don't know what's going on with those guys. Yea, over the years my allegiances changed. In the 486 days I can't recall who I used but in the HX/TX days I was Asus, BX days I was Gigabyte and continued to use them even when they had voltage issues with various 3D cards, and then switched to Intel for 820 / RDRAM and stuck with Intel ever since, since my priorities and usage model changed. I was no longer using a PC as an enthusiest / hobbyist / tweaker and wanted reliability. Mind you, that was disrupted during the capacitor fallout problem a few years back (865 chipset days).
These days I just buy something over the top and hope it lasts so long that I don't have to touch it for a very long time. | |
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1 edit | I was going to say, if you want a board you know will be reliable but without anything fancy, Intel is the way to go. If you want something that will work good but has all the tweaking options I'd say Asus - at least right now. They've been junk in the past, and who knows, a few years from now Asus could be junk again and the enthusiast crowd will rally around a different manufacturer. I mean, remember Abit? Where are they now? They were the creme de la creme. Then there was also DFI who seem to be no more. Shit changes so fast that loyalty will only get you burned.
Edit - Heh, DFI is the direct spiritual successor to Abit, with the same engineer who did up the BH6 and BP6 going there after Abit took a shit. Funny how DFI is now no longer in the motherboard business, either. | |
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