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reply to decranez

Re: Velcom, Acanac, price change, when ?

Yea i feel like the negative connotations are coming from Acanac using the wrong words: throttling instead of using speed limit or something. Throttling is shapeing of traffic which means the ISP plays with your connection and f*cks some of the things you do with it. The limit will not f*ck with anything you do it will only limit total speed for a limited time. Also bell used throttling without our consent whereas acanac is making it very clear what you are signing up for. Personally to save 10-15$/month i will accept reduced speeds for 5 hrs out of 24.

I like this initiative. Now cant wait for the damned prices!

reply to Hazelsmrf

the cerberus, I still don't really understand all the complaining. Acanac are offering a service, you are free to not take it and go with one that offers an unthrottled 6Mbps line, or are you forced to only use Acanac for some reason? I think the choice is good, I'd much rather have choices and different plans that meet different needs everywhere than have EVERYONE offer the exact same cookie cutter plans that don't necessarily fit your needs. At least at 6Mbps you have several choices out there.

reply to Jurjen
I wonder the same. And also, does the throttling affect the upload speed ? I want to keep my faster upload while my download speed is throttled/rate limited/whatever you call it.

reply to Jurjen
rate limiting sounds like it would be half of the max speed, so 3mbps would always be 3 if they are paying for 6...
but those werent the people i was talking about, anyone syncing over 3mbps on 6mbps is going to be upset, people sign up for it because its the fastest in the area, and because 3rd parties tend to be good about getting you on the fastest profile you can handle.
i have a friend on bell who is on a 3meg profile for no apparent reason. from his line stats, he should be getting the full 6, but since his family knows nothing about line stats and technical details of dsl hes left on the 3meg profile paying for 6.
this is the type of thing bell does to save money on uneducated customers. not something a wholesaler, who fights for the consumer, should be doing

reply to pducharme
As stated before in this topic: the upload speed will not be affected, only download.

thank you, i didn't want to read all the 19 pages of posts

reply to pducharme
Upload is not throttled at all time, according to Paul.

reply to Hazelsmrf

reply to the cerberus
The thing is: the 6 Mbps is determined by the sync. Then you get overhead, noise on the line, etc. what will determine the actual speed. However, the "rate limit" is just an artificial bottleneck on Acanac's side.

See it this way: The highway is designed for 6 lanes, however on the outer lanes the tarmac isn't in a good state, so you can't use it there all the way. Effectively, the amount of usable lanes is closer to five for most people. In some extreme cases a highway is so bad that only 3 lanes can be used. However, during the rush hour, people are told to only use 3 lanes max. If you're used to having 5 good lanes, you'll notice the difference; if 3 of the lanes were already unusable, it makes no difference at all.

That'd be the case for a solid limit.

However, if we're going proportional, we're just closing half of the lanes that are in a good condition and we ignore the bad lanes as if they don't even exist. Bringing it back to Acanac's situation: how would the rate limiter know how much noise there is on the last mile to adjust your speed?

That's why I'm guessing for a solid limit, rather then a proportional limit.

I'm curious on Paul's answer, or anybody with more fun analogies!

It's not based on the last mile. It's based on the AGAS line peak usage.

So if we start approaching 1Gbps we reduce each DSL line by 1Mbps for example. An hour later it starts once again approaching 1Gbps we reduce the speeds by another 1Mbps. If you are already at 3Mbps because of the sync rate nothing will change for you. We will not rate limit lines below 3Mbps on the 6Mbps plans.

Once the Price get out for Cable QC, when can we order ? Also, on your site, it says I don't have cable in my Area, but I was previously on Vidéotron, does that mean I CAN subscribe and it's only your site that was not good ?

reply to Acanac Inc
It's past business hours.

What's the point of waiting any longer for the cable prices?

Is this another Teksavvy prank?

I don't believe in fairy tales for the "promise"... As for the bible, it needs an "edited for time & content" label.

reply to Jurjen

reply to Acanac Inc

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...Try 3Mbps... see if you can live with it!
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Those people currently on 6 Mbps can do their own testing to see what 3 Mbps will be like with Acanac during prime time. If you know enough to get into your router settings, you can limit your own speeds. In my TP-Link wireless router, it is under Advanced Setup, and Traffic Control heading.

I have been testing limiting my own download speeds to 2Mbps (2496), in case I have to downgrade from 6M to 2M with Teksavvy.

Yes, everything is a wee bit slower, but I'm by myself on this connection, and general browsing is basically OK. I watched the SuperBowl halftime show, and it played fine (480p?).

Basically, it reminds me of my old Scumpatico 1M days!

Of course, if I schedule any 2:22 a.m. off-peak torrents, I crank it back up to 6M!

And remember, this Acanac speed limiting is supposed to be dynamic, and intelligent. Hopefully, the worst-case scenario would rarely be hit.
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Acanac... I really think you should include the explanation of your double-asterisked items when you post your DSL price list in the forums. That's a first-year-only promo price, right?