axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to watice
Re: harsh I don't think lying in an advertisement is fair. Haven't seen the ads, but if Verizon were careful to always say "according to the August 2011 study" they could probably defend themselves. |
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| said by axus:I don't think lying in an advertisement is fair. Haven't seen the ads, but if Verizon were careful to always say "according to the August 2011 study" they could probably defend themselves.
I can't speak for the TV version, but the radio version (heard on 104.3 FM from NYC) very clearly states that the data is based on the August 2, 2011 FCC report. I would assume they were just as careful on the TV ad.
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The TV ad does say it's based of August 2011 FCC findings in the small fine print. |
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I have not heard the add personally but I know that Verizon loves to bend the truth. FIOS is not all that it's cracked up to be.I have a friend in Staten Island NY who swears up and down by it but her sister who lives in Florida has FIOS and her internet speed is not what she had in NY and her HD TV picture is sucky. I recently moved to an area where FIOS is available and was told that i can not get it because i live in an MDU. ( Multiple Dwelling Unit) despite the fact each unit has it's own Network interface box. Secondly the place I had moved from had FIOS cable laid out almost 3 years ago but yet it has not rolled out. Also the clam that it is all fiber to the house may be true but once it gets hooked up it reverts back to copper cable. Verizon and AT&T Both lie |
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| Not what its all cracked up to be? My 35/35 FiOS service gets me 42down 33 up with 8 ms pings. According to speedtest.net, my connection is better than 99% of the country. 
P.S. Their entry service which is 15/5 gets most customers 20/6. That connection is probably faster than 80% of ALL internet connections in this country. Actually, Im curious. Someone with 15/5 go to speedtest.net and tell me what % of the country you are faster than. |
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| I have basic 15/5 FiOs. I just ran the test.
I got:
18410 dl
10244 ul
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said by The Rocker: Also the clam that it is all fiber to the house may be true but once it gets hooked up it reverts back to copper cable. I have FiOs. In a multiple dwelling building (here we call them apartment houses). The fiber comes out of the ground at the front of the building and into a network box. The line for each apartment splits out there and goes ALL FIBER into each unit (apartment). I can literally see the fiber coming out of the ceiling, into a joiner box. Then, another fiber link comes out (the thing is thinner than a really cheap speaker wire - besides the marking printed right on it marking it as fiber, it clearly could not be copper - copper this thin would not service TV/Phone/Internet). This thin fiber goes into the network interface where TV breaks out into a wire cable, Phone into the phone line and Internet is into an Actiontech modem that provides either a network cable or wireless.
My wireless (Connected to a desktopo on the other end of the apartment which is supposed to be 15/5) consistently gets over 18 and over 11. The wired desktop is getting the same exact speeds.
In our multiple dwelling building (apartment house) what it took to get connected was a petition with all residents signing a promise to get minimal one year subscriptions. Within the month, we were wired and connected. |
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35/35 Package |
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| Waaah No fair ! The West Coast gets more upload on their 35/35's ! 
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| I am just jealous of people who can pay for the extra bandwidth. As a hard core gamer, I'd love to have your bandwidth to run both the host and join the game. |
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said by The Rocker:Also the clam that it is all fiber to the house may be true but once it gets hooked up it reverts back to copper cable. Why would you care? Fiber isn't some magical thing that makes stuff go fast. Single mode fiber optics (what FiOS uses) is just very useful for covering long distances with very large amounts of bandwidth. Once its covered the distance and is inside your house, there is no reason for it to remain fiber optic. Within your own house, copper Ethernet works just fine. |
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 RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to axus
said by axus:I don't think lying in an advertisement is fair. Haven't seen the ads, but if Verizon were careful to always say "according to the August 2011 study" they could probably defend themselves.
That is in small print on the chart. The ad (which has been revised and I saw tonight on CBS) has a voice over that calls the report "A Recent Report from the FCC)" giving the erroneous impression that the report is current or the latest report. Since the latest report does not show this status and VZ knew this before releasing this revised ad, it is a lie. If there was no newer data from the FCC, then using a 4 month old report (which is identified as such) would be ok. When they knew that it is a misrepresentation of the actual current status (which they knew from CV telling them that the stats were no longer valid and that the FCC was going to report this) they should have had a new ad in the can which did not lie and was thus ready to use once the FCC had released their new report. Note that this is not a case where the FCC had released new numbers with no warning (thus blindsiding VZ) where some delay in creating and releasing a new set of ads and continuing to run the old (and now misleading) ads MIGHT be justified. |
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