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Re: Current Status: Saturday, November 19, 2011 by N4ST N4ST, I have had WB for 1 month longer than you and also have had no service calls.
dbirdman, I suspect HughesNet has down time during the night for maintenance, like Wildblue, which limits the success of download managers. During the 30th and 31st of the month, one can download anything during any time of the day or night on Wildblue without impacting the cap. A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter. The nanny-like daily caps and speed reductions on HughesNet are awful. The stepped speeds during congestion on Wildblue are not as bad.
dbirdman, The savvy user who is using a download/upload manager is keeping his computer and modem on all night consuming power. That is not suitable for my off-grid photovoltaic system. When I am not using them, my computer and modem are powered off. A WB user can set the update manager to update at the end of the month to achieve the same results.
I agree with DrStrangeLov, HughesNet's bacon is about to be burnt by Viasat-1 prompting the recent speed increase and marketing ploys.
Please, please, all power users on Wildblue beam 31 leave for HughesNet so that the 512 k bits/s download speed that I constantly had before November 2009 will return. Viasat-1 will not cover this area. Scat, skedaddle, vroom....
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| I can understand your point of veiw on most of that but I do have a question, you said "A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter". How do you figure this, I can easily now get over 100 GB per month completely FAP free if I wanted, how exactly can you do that on WB? Even if you have 2 whole free days you would be hard pressed to get that at my speeds, let alone at the slower speed you guys get. The only speed reductions on HN are on the old KU systems and those are slowly phasing out and as they do the speeds will also get better on those systems. The speeds are double the plan speed for 9000 users all day every day.
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 dbirdmanPremium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
usa
kudos:5 | reply to Spice300
said by Spice300:dbirdman, I suspect HughesNet has down time during the night for maintenance, like Wildblue, which limits the success of download managers.
Wow. I found that statement odd. You mean that WB routinely has maintenance downtime?
That is highly unacceptable for any internet connection, and most assuredly is not the case with either of my satellite connections. Unplanned downtime, usually weather-related, has been known to occur (speaking of Network downtime, not user down time), but it is relatively rare.
The 5 hours of FAP-Free time with Hughes is typically wide-open, speedwise, although it is better during the 4 later hours than the first hour. Downloading 2-5GB during this period is rather routine, whether it is done by a night-owl, or a download manager.
I also consider the lack of service calls to be normal; service calls are abnormal. I've had a lot of internet connections in my time (I have 6 that I pay for at the moment) and other than first connections I've never had a service call. Why people would consider a lack of service calls in 6 years to be exemplary is beyond me. Yes, I know there are folks who have routine service calls on their refrigerators and washing machines - I consider those to be odd as well.
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said by zeddlar:... you said "A WB user can download bigger files than a HN user without it counting on the FAP meter". How do you figure this...? For HughesNet the maximum file size is limited to the amount of data that can be downloaded in 5 consecutive hours. For Wildblue the maximum file size is limited to the amount of data that can be downloaded in 24 or 48 hours. That's a 31.6 GB file using the Pro pack downloading at 1.5 Mbps for 48 hours. A customer of HughesNet will not be able to download a 5 GB high definition movie in a 5 hour slot.
HN's daily download limits also mess up streaming large videos. Provide a WB user avoids congested times of the day, one can still stream video because there are no daily limits.
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 carusoPremium
join:2003-08-22
California
kudos:1 | said by zeddlar: Provide a WB user avoids congested times of the day, one can still stream video because there are no daily limits.
Could you please elaborate? I have been told by WB tech that all downloads, streaming included counts as a daily use.
Also I hear for the first time that the downloads on 30/31st of the month does not count as a usage, is this true?
I have WB with 17G limit. First month we (two computers) rack up 25G. After punishment, we managed to stay on 50% for three months, but it is tight maneuvering.
thanks.
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| Thats not my quote, spice said that. You are correct though, everything you download counts toward your allowance and streaming is a download.
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As of October 31, 2011, the Wildblue FAP meter still flat lines on the the 30th and 31st of the month. No usage is included on those days. The WB FAP meter has been doing this for years. You can test it on November 30, 2011.
You can read about the discovery of it in FAP Flap Follow-up back in 2007.
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