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 TechnogeezAgape in amazement.Premium
join:2007-01-20 | reply to retired17
Re: [Rant] 24 hour fitness has my fingerprints said by retired17:When I signed up at 24 hour fitness, they got my home address along with a copy of my driver's license. Now they have my left and right index finger prints. They will use it for cardless check-in instead of scanning your membership card. That's what they say. They claim you will no longer need your card so forgetting or losing it doesn't matter. I feel this a PRIVACY issue. Why do they need my finger prints when showing your membership card and a photo ID as they have done in the past has always sufficed? When I complained, they said if you don't like it, you can always quit. Good bye privacy. Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner?
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| said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit.
If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. | |
TechnogeezAgape in amazement.Premium
join:2007-01-20 | said by nickdigger:said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit. If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. Whether or not you feel they have the "right," if you leave it behind, it's abandoned, and therefore fair game for anyone who wants to collect it. BTW, a photo is "biometric data," but I don't hear an outcry from OP about giving up a photo for their membership card...
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
kudos:3 | reply to nickdigger
said by nickdigger:Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They do if one wishes to be a member of said club.
If it's a problem, don't join.
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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said by nickdigger:said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit. If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. They have a right to make you do anything legal to allow you to pay for their services.
You have the right to refuse to give them business if you don't like their requirements.
I easily see how a fingerprint makes their jobs easier.
As I said before there is never any doubt if someone is trying to use another persons membership and if someone forgets their ID you save a lot of time because their finger can be used at ID and they can't forget that.
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AsherN
join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON | reply to nickdigger
said by nickdigger:said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit. If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. You do realize that most of those systems don't actually store the print image, right? It's a light/dark pattern run through an algorithm, and the original can't be reproduced from that. | |
 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | said by AsherN:said by nickdigger:said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit. If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. You do realize that most of those systems don't actually store the print image, right? It's a light/dark pattern run through an algorithm, and the original can't be reproduced from that. but, you can check a known fingerprint against the stored information.
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| said by AVD:but, you can check a known fingerprint against the stored information. If you have a known fingerprint, why do you care if the guy is a 24 hr fitness member? | |
AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | said by cmaenginsb1:said by AVD:but, you can check a known fingerprint against the stored information. If you have a known fingerprint, why do you care if the guy is a 24 hr fitness member? my bad. You can check fingerprint images against the stored fingerprint "information" to make matches.
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| said by AVD:said by cmaenginsb1:said by AVD:but, you can check a known fingerprint against the stored information. If you have a known fingerprint, why do you care if the guy is a 24 hr fitness member? my bad. You can check fingerprint images against the stored fingerprint "information" to make matches. Except 24hr fitness also requires a PIN.
So if you wanted to match fingerprints using their database you're going to need access to the database itself.
I'm not sure what your concern about being able to match fingerprints anyway? | |
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