| [Rant] 24 hour fitness has my fingerprints When I signed up at 24 hour fitness, they got my home address along with a copy of my driver's license. Now they have my left and right index finger prints. They will use it for cardless check-in instead of scanning your membership card. That's what they say. They claim you will no longer need your card so forgetting or losing it doesn't matter. I feel this a PRIVACY issue. Why do they need my finger prints when showing your membership card and a photo ID as they have done in the past has always sufficed? When I complained, they said if you don't like it, you can always quit. Good bye privacy. |
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 OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY | No one is forcing you to go to 24 hour fitness.
They were right, if you don't like it, leave.
They didn't hold a gun to your head or have a court order you to do it, you did it of your own free will. You don't have a leg to stand on here.
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said by retired17:When I signed up at 24 hour fitness, they got my home address along with a copy of my driver's license. Now they have my left and right index finger prints. They will use it for cardless check-in instead of scanning your membership card. That's what they say. They claim you will no longer need your card so forgetting or losing it doesn't matter. I feel this a PRIVACY issue. Why do they need my finger prints when showing your membership card and a photo ID as they have done in the past has always sufficed? When I complained, they said if you don't like it, you can always quit. Good bye privacy. They are making it so people who look alike (like siblings) can't share one membership.
It also probably makes their jobs easier since they don't have to deal with people showing up without any ID or their membership cards.
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 BigBlarg
join:2008-02-10
Longueuil, QC
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Fingerprints and privacy? Who cares!?
Think about it seriously... what kind of information could they find about you by looking at your fingerprints? Nothing. |
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So let me get this straight.
You have a problem with them having your fingerprints but you gave them the fingerprints anyways? 
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and the problem is what? do you wash down your car every day, your door knob, and goddess knows what else you touch. its no big deal, id much rather deal with biometrics than having to carry around a bunch of cards. personally i cant wait for the day when your fingerprint is connected to your credit cards and i.d. so you dont even have to carry around a wallet.
here in georgia they USED to do the fingerprint thing so if you lost your I.D. / D.L. you didnt need to bring in a bunch of crap to get a new one, just scan your finger, but that went out the seccond our governor got in to office |
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cahiattPremium
join:2001-03-21
Smyrna, GA | reply to retired17
What do you do with the fingerprints you leave behind on every thing you touch every day? The world is gonna get you!!!!! |
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join:2001-02-26
Tempe, AZ
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said by retired17:When I signed up at 24 hour fitness, they got my home address along with a copy of my driver's license. Now they have my left and right index finger prints. They will use it for cardless check-in instead of scanning your membership card. That's what they say. They claim you will no longer need your card so forgetting or losing it doesn't matter. I feel this a PRIVACY issue. Why do they need my finger prints when showing your membership card and a photo ID as they have done in the past has always sufficed? When I complained, they said if you don't like it, you can always quit. Good bye privacy. You didnt refuse? FAIL
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join:2007-01-20 | reply to retired17
said by retired17:When I signed up at 24 hour fitness, they got my home address along with a copy of my driver's license. Now they have my left and right index finger prints. They will use it for cardless check-in instead of scanning your membership card. That's what they say. They claim you will no longer need your card so forgetting or losing it doesn't matter. I feel this a PRIVACY issue. Why do they need my finger prints when showing your membership card and a photo ID as they have done in the past has always sufficed? When I complained, they said if you don't like it, you can always quit. Good bye privacy. Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner?
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From what I have gather from all your responses, you wouldn't mind the credit card company requiring you to have your fingerprints scanned everytime you make a purchase at a store. My point is that for now government is collecting data on you, now businesses are starting to do the same thing. Where's my freedom? |
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| said by retired17:From what I have gather from all your responses, you wouldn't mind the credit card company requiring you to have your fingerprints scanned everytime you make a purchase at a store. My point is that for now government is collecting data on you, now businesses are starting to do the same thing. Where's my freedom? I was first fingerprinted in the 1950's for the military. I was again
fingerprinted for NSA clearance. I have been fingerprinted many dozens of times
during my lifetime by government agencies and private companies. I've traveled
all over the world and have been in all 50 states and surrounding islands of
North America. I come and go as I please anywhere. I'm sitting here on the
internet where I can get local information from anywhere in the world. I don't
have to rely on American media to see what's happening. The U.S. Government
knows everything about me since the day I was born. The credit reporting
agencies know everything about me financially. The phone company knows
everything about my phone calls. The credit card companies know what I buy
and where. Motor vehicle knows what I am driving and how I drive. This is just
skimming the surface! Are you gettin' it yet? Your "FREEDOM" is off planet! |
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said by retired17:From what I have gather from all your responses, you wouldn't mind the credit card company requiring you to have your fingerprints scanned everytime you make a purchase at a store. My point is that for now government is collecting data on you, now businesses are starting to do the same thing. Where's my freedom? You still haven't addressed my response. If you have a problem with them having your prints, why did you give them your prints? Freely at that!
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 fatnesssubtleJanitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing
kudos:14 | reply to bitemeboy
I don't think I've ever been fingerprinted. |
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said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit.
If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. |
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 ironwalker World RenownedPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ
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said by fatness:I don't think I've ever been fingerprinted. I was in nursery school....or pre-school for those who do not know what a nursery school is.
it was a trip to our friendly police station that the middlesex school district made mandatory to all public schools. The fingerprinting was kind of a treat or a gift we were given as they demonstrated on every kid from every class from every school from every trip every year ensuring a nice catalog of the local kids finger prints for future crimes. here son, tak it home, frame it, show mom, maybe show your own kids how small you were and how stupid your parents were for allowing this to happen! 
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TechnogeezAgape in amazement.Premium
join:2007-01-20 | reply to nickdigger
said by nickdigger:said by Technogeez:Every time you touched one of their chrome-plated or other non-porous surface exercise machines, you're leaving fingerprints, DNA and God-knows-what-else behind. So why the consternation over a fingerprint on a scanner? Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They aren't finding the data on the floor, and hoping it's good; they are getting a clean scan, which a dishonest employee could reproduce & possibly use to access any device you own with a fingerprint scanner (laptop, car, home, office, safe). Maybe that sounds paranoid, but really, fuck the fitness club or any corp that thinks they are entitled to anally probe their customers just because they own a probe and their customers have anuses. "But we're being bankrupted by identical twins sharing a single membership card." Bullshit. If an employee dusted a machine for prints immediately after use, there'd be a serious "WTF" possibly followed by violence. Legally, technically, somone could probably go house-to-house, car-to-car & dust every door knob and collect dandruff flakes & bloody bandaids to compile a database; but such a person would deserve death by blunt force if caught by their target. Whether or not you feel they have the "right," if you leave it behind, it's abandoned, and therefore fair game for anyone who wants to collect it. BTW, a photo is "biometric data," but I don't hear an outcry from OP about giving up a photo for their membership card...
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join:2007-09-14
New York, NY
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said by retired17:From what I have gather from all your responses, you wouldn't mind the credit card company requiring you to have your fingerprints scanned everytime you make a purchase at a store. My point is that for now government is collecting data on you, now businesses are starting to do the same thing. Where's my freedom? You sound like a conspiracy theorist.
What is the government do with all this data? Kill us with it?
I sure as hell hope they let us scan our fingerprints when we pay with a CC. It will make the signature panel, which is already useless, obsolete, and implement a real form of security. |
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ironwalker World RenownedPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ | It isn't even business' collecting data or building a profile on one, it's the insurance companies I am afraid of. All those discount cards ya get at you favorite stores does more than give discounts, it collects a database of all you purchases then is sold for big money. Insurance companies in the future will have the right to cancel your emergency liver failure request for a new liver because of all those scotch purchases at your local bottle king store for the past 35 years. finger printing is not even the half of it when it comes to profiling each person or building databases on everyone.
fingerprinting isnt all that secure either, it too can be spoofed like a mac address. So don't think all this stuff being implemented in the future is for our better good, to protect us, or to prevent identity theft, it's just a way to sell the idea of databseing everyone for other reasons and money is the main one.
I'd take better security over ease of use or speed of use any day.
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
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Warwick, NY
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said by nickdigger:Because some fitness club has no right to a person's biometric data. They do if one wishes to be a member of said club.
If it's a problem, don't join.
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