efflandt
join:2002-01-25
Elgin, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| 5 static IP, would 5360 and Linux router do?
I just connected DSL with self install (768/128) of Efficient 5360 and run pppoe in Linux as firewall/router. I was just wondering if I wanted static IP if I have to buy their other equipment and installation or just change the monthly billing plan?
Is static IP still run over a single pppoe connection to a single gateway IP on my end and I split it up to the separate IPs from here or does static IP use some other connection method (besides the 'static_' domain prefix)? I have Linux set up to masquerade my old computer and laptop now, so I can connect either of those now through 4-port switch/printserver.
I am used to having a static IP with my old PPP connection, which makes certain things easier, and would like to host a couple of low traffic websites, smtp and be able to easily ssh into my box from outside. |
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schja01
I need to get a life.
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL
clubs:  
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest
| All the static IPs are routed down the single PPPOE session. Knowing little about Linux's capabilities in this area I can't offer advice but if it can do One-to-One NAT you should be fine.
James
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to efflandt
I haven't done it but if you know Linux you should be able to get it going. There's a few people who have gotten it working.
As James said, Ameritech routes all traffic to your static IP block down the same PPP session, and the main IP address is the gateway. It's up to you to take that and distribute the rest of them on your end. The Efficient 5861 router does that for their standard configuration. With the router you have 5 usable addresses but some have been able to use 7 with *nix. |
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DarkRealm
Don't Fear The Reaper
join:2001-05-09
DarkDomain
clubs: | reply to efflandt
A Friend of mine and I got all 5 ip's working under a linux box, so yes it can be done, just you have to find someone that has the Linux knowledge.. I have very little of linux knowledge, but my friend has alot and we got it working. |
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starvo$
join:1999-07-23
Crystal Lake, IL
| reply to efflandt
Here's a link to the docs.
»www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/how···nect.txt
Here's a link to their website:
»www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
This should cover the connection/etc. It doesn't quite get into the routing, but a quick Google-ing turned up these:
»www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO···ure.html
*Edit*
Best routing and Subnetting primer ever. Explains it 100x better than I can. Read this to figure out how to route that subnet of IP's after you get them via PPPoE
»www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/tag/a.html
Basically, once the Linux box authenticates via PPPoE, it then snags the subnet of IP's assigned to you. So you need to just make sure that you can Route that subnet. (I'm running on 30 hrs of no sleep, with no Linux access right now, so some of these commands might be off a bit.)
But I think you just need to do a Route add for your subnet.
route add -net 199.99.99.0
Doing a route -n will print your routing table out. In place of 199.xxx. etc use the appropriate subnet ofr yourself.
Any ways, add the route, hookup a hub/switch (via crossover) to the ethX interface on the linux box, and from there, plug in clients, and use the primary static IP that was assigned as the gateway IP addry on the clients, and copy all of the relevant DNS/Etc info. The smart thing would also be to enable some sort of NAT/firewall setup and assign the internal clients 192.168.x.x addries, using IPfilter/IpChains/Netfilter, or do whatever floats your boat.
Anywho. Hope this helps. I've only setup one machine (friends) on Atech DSL, and that was about how I did a year or so ago. Sorry if detail is lacking. See the above Lack-o-sleep excuse. Just search on google for terms like Linux PPPoE Ameritech Roaring Penguin, etc. You'll find a metric ton of info.
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Schoeby
join:2001-12-03
Detroit, MI
| reply to efflandt
The good news is when you buy Ameritech's static IP package you get 8 IP's to use. When you order just tell them you want to the static package without the router. They will then tell you that you will only have 1 static usable. Just go with it.
Like you said, when you login the PPP interface will be assigned one of the statics and all of the IP's will be routed over that PPP interface for the Linux box to route. Then, rather than masquerading, you can route those IP's to another interface(your LAN). |
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BurntCricket
Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do
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join:2000-09-02
Here
clubs: | reply to starvo$
To set this up will I need to download and install a full version of linux (redhat) first ??
then install the penguin stuff ??
I am new to Linux, but learn coding very fast.
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dslq
join:2001-05-07
Lansing, MI | reply to Schoeby
said by Schoeby:
...you get 8 IP's to use.
Actually you only get five as the other three are used by your CPE and other devices upstream from you for routing purposes. |
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efflandt
join:2002-01-25
Elgin, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Network IP, 5 IPs, router IP, and broadcast IP.
I could see where router IP could be used if your linux box IS the router, and maybe network and broadcast IP's by using -host instead of -net routing. I guess I will have to wait and see.
BTW SuSE 7.3 included kernel pppoe, easy to set up with YaST2 (for kinternet or demand) and rp-pppoe that was easy to set up with its tkpppoe X interface. Ameritech says dynamic IPs are for security, but I get hit with KaZaA (1214) and Gnutella (6346) port storms. |
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starvo$
join:1999-07-23
Crystal Lake, IL
| reply to BurntCricket
said by BurntCricket:
To set this up will I need to download and install a full version of linux (redhat) first ??
then install the penguin stuff ??
I am new to Linux, but learn coding very fast.
Yes, install linux, make sure it's alive, and well, and can ping other devices on your local network. (I'm assuming you'll have 2 network cards in it. One will be connected to the local network, most likely using the 192.168.xx.xx scheme, whilst your other Network card is connected to your DSL modem.)
More Linux help than any sane person needs can be found at »www.linuxdoc.org, and »www.linuxnewbie.org
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BurntCricket
Gotta Do What Ya Gotta Do
Premium
join:2000-09-02
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clubs: | thanks >> lots of new learning >> my brain thanks you too, it's been a while since it has received any new input.
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Schoeby
join:2001-12-03
Detroit, MI
| reply to efflandt
said by efflandt:
Network IP, 5 IPs, router IP, and broadcast IP.
I could see where router IP could be used if your linux box IS the router, and maybe network and broadcast IP's by using -host instead of -net routing. I guess I will have to wait and see.
You are right efflandt. Whether or not it is proper, you are able to take advantage of all the IP's. You will however need to use NAT for 1 of the additional 3, if you want 8 dedicated IP public hosts (including router).
Is the kernel mode pppoe stable? |
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efflandt
join:2002-01-25
Elgin, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| 2.4.x kernel pppoe in SuSE 7.3 is stable and easy to set up (for kinternet in KDE). Roaring Penquin rp-pppoe is also easy with tkpppoe interface to show/graph up/down speeds.
I was getting ppp0 errors and erratic speeds with rp-pppoe when I had synchronous mode enabled (not sure what HDLC is for anyway, sdsl?). But since I disabled that, it is clean 77 KB/s browser downloads on 768/128 service (645-680 Kbps).
BTW no-ip.com works great for dynamic names ('realhost' and my username subdomains) with ssh and sendmail in/out, so still debating about 768/128 static or new 1500/256 dyn pkg. |
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