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kusiobache

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DVI vs. HDMI

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?

Soooo... I'm planning on buying a new computer monitor, and I found two that I would be OK with. However, I do like on much more than the other, but my problem is that although it supports 1920 X 1080, It has no HDMI port, whereas the other monitor does have an HDMI port. I was wondering if this really makes a difference, and what IS the difference between HDMI and DVI.

I mean is there any other difference besides the fact that HDMI carries video and sound? Because if that's it then I will probably just get the one without an HDMI port because I'm planning on buying separate speakers anyways, which will connect to the sound card via a separate cable.

But with DVI I would still be able to get my full 1920 X 1080 display right? And then later if I choose to go to dual-monitors, could I do that with DVI cables? (my video card supports it).

I'd much rather get the monitor without an HDMI port because it looks much nicer and functions about the same (has a worse resolution, but I don't need anything aboyt 1920 X 1080), but I want to be sure I'm not losing anything by using a DVI cable instead of an HDMI one. Oh, and yes the monitor works with HDCP.

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?


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DVI supports higher than 1920x1080.

Really the only difference between them is HDMI carries audio and sound. DVI doesn't carry sound. Both support HDCP.

Personally I prefer DVI since it can actually be secured in place, the connections are a lot more solid than HDMI.

kusiobache

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Thanks, that's all I wanted to know. It's just that lately everyone I know has been going to HDMI cables. I mean sure they are better, but they also cost alot more and have their own downfalls.

Thanks again.


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HDMI and DVI cost about the same if you buy them from the right place, like Monoprice.com

Really the only thing I have against them is that you can't secure the connections physically. You're counting on friction to hold it in place.

kusiobache

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trust me, I know from the HDMi cable I bought for my ps3 lol; any slight movement has the chance of just slightly disconnecting the HDMi cable. THen I have to redo all my setting =/


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EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?
In short, yes. There IS a subjective difference between DVI output and HDMI output. On my Samsung 220HD monitor the HDMI output to screen is much sharper through my EVGA GTX260 than the DVI output. Well worth the cost of the cable (which doesn't jiggle). Your monitor and video card may give you different results.
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said by DKS See Profile :

said by kusiobache See Profile :

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?
In short, yes. There IS a subjective difference between DVI output and HDMI output. On my Samsung 220HD monitor the HDMI output to screen is much sharper through my EVGA GTX260 than the DVI output. Well worth the cost of the cable (which doesn't jiggle). Your monitor and video card may give you different results.
then there's a further issue somewhere. HDMI is DVI, but with audio and a condensed form factor. also, since theyre both digital, there isnt really a way for one to have a better picture based on the cable. digital is digital, it's either 100% indicitive of the source or it's 0% (static/black/etc). maybe not the entire screen, but the image is either fully on and full source quality or it's off.
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If I understand correctly DVI is and HDMI are both digital. I have a monitor that supports both DVI and HDMI as does my video card. I prefer DVI as it is more secure. On my HDMI TV sets I've had an occasional loose HDMI cable cause signal problems. Only friction holds HDMI cables in place.
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said by DKS See Profile :

said by kusiobache See Profile :

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?
In short, yes. There IS a subjective difference between DVI output and HDMI output. On my Samsung 220HD monitor the HDMI output to screen is much sharper through my EVGA GTX260 than the DVI output. Well worth the cost of the cable (which doesn't jiggle). Your monitor and video card may give you different results.
then there's a further issue somewhere. HDMI is DVI, but with audio and a condensed form factor. also, since theyre both digital, there isnt really a way for one to have a better picture based on the cable. digital is digital, it's either 100% indicitive of the source or it's 0% (static/black/etc). maybe not the entire screen, but the image is either fully on and full source quality or it's off.
Not really. As I said, it's a subjective issue. I have a sharper image with HDMI vs. DVI.
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My HDMI cables stay put. I guess if the cat gets a paw stuck on the cable, or someone isn't careful when reaching behind equipment, they might pop out. A little Krazy Glue applied to both sides on the HDMI plug will do the trick if they do pop out by themselves.

[EDIT] I was just curious about this... When I use the DVI to HDMI adapter on my video card, audio is carried over the HDMI cable to my TV. Is DVI capable of carrying audio signals and it's just not utilized?

whymeintrouble
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if i recall correctly there are couple types of DVI.
DVI-A
DVI-D
DVI-I

i'm not really familiar with 'I'.
'D' is for both audio and video, while 'A' is video only


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Doesn't HDMI have DRM capabilitie(s) built-in as well?


Jahntassa
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said by EUS See Profile :

Doesn't HDMI have DRM capabilitie(s) built-in as well?
Yes, it's called HDCP, and since DVI and HDMI carry the same video signal, both are compatible.


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said by whymeintrouble See Profile :

if i recall correctly there are couple types of DVI.
DVI-A
DVI-D
DVI-I

i'm not really familiar with 'I'.
'D' is for both audio and video, while 'A' is video only
Thanks for the info!

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said by whymeintrouble See Profile :

if i recall correctly there are couple types of DVI.
DVI-A
DVI-D
DVI-I

i'm not really familiar with 'I'.
'D' is for both audio and video, while 'A' is video only
Wrong. DVI-I is analog and digital, and DVI-D is only digital, while DVI-A is analog only.

THERE IS NO DVI with audio unless converted to HDMI with an audio decoder wired into extra pins on the DVI port. That's what they came up with HDMI for.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Vi···nterface

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said by kusiobache See Profile :

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?
In short, yes. There IS a subjective difference between DVI output and HDMI output. On my Samsung 220HD monitor the HDMI output to screen is much sharper through my EVGA GTX260 than the DVI output. Well worth the cost of the cable (which doesn't jiggle). Your monitor and video card may give you different results.
This is called the placebo effect.

nnaarrnn

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DVI can support up to 3840x2400 on a single link.


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said by DKS See Profile :

said by kusiobache See Profile :

EDIT: TO make it short, I guess what I'm saying is... Do DVI cables support 1920 X 1080 resolutions, and also higher resolutions and/or Dual Monitors?
In short, yes. There IS a subjective difference between DVI output and HDMI output. On my Samsung 220HD monitor the HDMI output to screen is much sharper through my EVGA GTX260 than the DVI output. Well worth the cost of the cable (which doesn't jiggle). Your monitor and video card may give you different results.
This is called the placebo effect.
Not really. The monitor may render the signals slightly more effectively. At least that is how it appears.
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howie
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said by nnaarrnn See Profile :

said by whymeintrouble See Profile :

if i recall correctly there are couple types of DVI.
DVI-A
DVI-D
DVI-I

i'm not really familiar with 'I'.
'D' is for both audio and video, while 'A' is video only
Wrong. DVI-I is analog and digital, and DVI-D is only digital, while DVI-A is analog only.

THERE IS NO DVI with audio unless converted to HDMI with an audio decoder wired into extra pins on the DVI port. That's what they came up with HDMI for.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Vi···nterface
Thanks... I was just curious how they got audio to my HDMI connector through the DVI port.


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Not really. The monitor may render the signals slightly more effectively. At least that is how it appears.
Yep, that's a placebo alright.. signals the same, there's no reason processing would be any different.
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