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BSD24
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Re: Would this conflict with an active cable signal?

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Let's say the customer wanted to keep cable for their TV, but opted for FIOS internet only. Given that (I assume) both signals would be traveling over the same wiring, would their be a conflict?

EDIT: I see this is for consumer hardware within the house, but my question still remains. Will having different traffic/protocols using the same infrastructure be an issue?

Karl - No, as long as Fios was installed with its own dedicated line. It should be dedicated specifically for this reason, but if a tech made the mistake of connecting the Fios line to the splitter that services your cabletv service it is quite possible that it would cause issues either with the internet or the cable or maybe even both.


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said by BSD24 See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Let's say the customer wanted to keep cable for their TV, but opted for FIOS internet only. Given that (I assume) both signals would be traveling over the same wiring, would their be a conflict?

EDIT: I see this is for consumer hardware within the house, but my question still remains. Will having different traffic/protocols using the same infrastructure be an issue?

Karl - No, as long as Fios was installed with its own dedicated line. It should be dedicated specifically for this reason, but if a tech made the mistake of connecting the Fios line to the splitter that services your cabletv service it is quite possible that it would cause issues either with the internet or the cable or maybe even both.
not true. verizon uses a catv/moca combiner called a moca nid to combine the cable co catv rf and the verizon moca onto the same coax network. a regular catv splitter can be used.


mysteryfiostech

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verizon uses what's called a moca nid that combines the moca signal onto the existing coax network. its done all the time. at the outlet, a standard splitter can be used to service both a tv and a vz router.


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said by mysteryfiostech :

said by BSD24 See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Let's say the customer wanted to keep cable for their TV, but opted for FIOS internet only. Given that (I assume) both signals would be traveling over the same wiring, would their be a conflict?

EDIT: I see this is for consumer hardware within the house, but my question still remains. Will having different traffic/protocols using the same infrastructure be an issue?

Karl - No, as long as Fios was installed with its own dedicated line. It should be dedicated specifically for this reason, but if a tech made the mistake of connecting the Fios line to the splitter that services your cabletv service it is quite possible that it would cause issues either with the internet or the cable or maybe even both.
not true. verizon uses a catv/moca combiner called a moca nid to combine the cable co catv rf and the verizon moca onto the same coax network. a regular catv splitter can be used.
mysteryfiostech - I know they use MOCA... But if you have CATV from Comcast (for example) and Fios for internet, then using common sense the lines shouldn't be combined. They should run seperatly. If you combined them that could cause problems possibly.


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said by BSD24 See Profile :

mysteryfiostech - I know they use MOCA... But if you have CATV from Comcast (for example) and Fios for internet, then using common sense the lines shouldn't be combined. They should run seperatly. If you combined them that could cause problems possibly.
Thats exactly my question. If this type of product is being deployed by Verizon for FIOS installs, what happens to the people who mix and match services (FIOS for internet, TWC for TV, etc.)? Furthermore, what happens if you are a "mix and match" customer, and THEN you go out and buy this product?? Would you introduce triple interference into the coax?
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wifi - the technicians (for both companies) should keep everything seperate.
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said by BSD24 See Profile :

wifi - the technicians (for both companies) should keep everything seperate.
"Should" is the operative word, but how would that work out in practice? Would the techs need to test the coax before install, and then make sure to use a different band then is currently being used (is that even possible??)? Furthermore, if you are installing this DLink gear yourself you likely wont be able to prevent (or detect) any interference. I think the idea of having 3 (or more) different services running over one piece of coax is a recipe for disaster!
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Well it depends on what you already have and what your using, basicly how your setup is. If you already have an existing line in the room, but you also have a TV for cable inthere, then Fios will run a seperate line up to the room (assuming they use coax for it instead of Cat5e(network cable)). For your internet.

If you have an existing outlet but not using it for cable tv, and its hooked up to cable. Fios will most likely disconnect that cable from the cable service (splitter) that comes into your house and connect it to their Fios system.

If you have 2 coax outlets existing, and one is in use and the other one is not but both are connected to cable tv service. Then Fios will most likely disconnect the cable line your not using and hook it up to their Fios system.

Just wanted to kind of give you some examples. This is why it really depends on what is already setup in your house. Also depending on what the techs find, if a line even if not in use is not good quality for the service for one reason or another may opt to run a new line anyways. But Fios service lines shouldn't connect into the Cable service lines. Both use a "Closed" cable system to prevent signal loss (egress or ingress) or foreign-signal interference.
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said by BSD24 See Profile :

Well it depends on what you already have and what your using, basicly how your setup is. If you already have an existing line in the room, but you also have a TV for cable inthere, then Fios will run a seperate line up to the room (assuming they use coax for it instead of Cat5e(network cable)). For your internet.

If you have an existing outlet but not using it for cable tv, and its hooked up to cable. Fios will most likely disconnect that cable from the cable service (splitter) that comes into your house and connect it to their Fios system.

If you have 2 coax outlets existing, and one is in use and the other one is not but both are connected to cable tv service. Then Fios will most likely disconnect the cable line your not using and hook it up to their Fios system.

Just wanted to kind of give you some examples. This is why it really depends on what is already setup in your house. Also depending on what the techs find, if a line even if not in use is not good quality for the service for one reason or another may opt to run a new line anyways. But Fios service lines shouldn't connect into the Cable service lines. Both use a "Closed" cable system to prevent signal loss (egress or ingress) or foreign-signal interference.
That makes sense, but what happens if I (the end user) decide to purchase the DLink MOCA equipment mentioned in this article? I would then be introducing additional interference and have no way of testing/troubleshooting it.
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