  Steve Security is inefficient Consultant join:2001-03-10 Tustin, CA
| reply to goalieskates Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!
said by goalieskates :Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF. I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came from the vendor - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has. |
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  donoreo Premium join:2002-05-30 North York, ON
| said by Steve :Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, Depends on your definition of malware, doesn't it? |
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join:2005-04-23 | I agree, Firefox and Mozilla WILL become unsafe also just like IE.
Firefox is gaining momentum and its market share is picking up. And that will result in more exploitations. |
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| reply to Steve said by Steve :said by goalieskates :Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF. I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came from the vendor - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has. Whatchu talking 'bout Willis!
SP 3 for XP was just recently released.... Folks running OEM AMD machines would call SP3 malware. |
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  Lanik Lab-nik Premium,ExMod 2002-03 join:2001-06-25 Bay Area
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| reply to Steve I guess nobody reads links these days. Vietnamese language pack is an addon and doesn't ship with the browser. 
Micro$oft ships far worse, hActiveX comes to mind. -- "If it ain't broke don't fix it." |
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  Steve Security is inefficient Consultant join:2001-03-10 Tustin, CA
| said by Lanik :I guess nobody reads links these days. Vietnamese language pack is an addon and doesn't ship with the browser.  That it doesn't ship with the product doesn't mean that the vendor doesn't provide it Micro$oft ships far worse, hActiveX comes to mind. ActiveX isn't a thing that ships, it's an interface that everybody uses to create browser extensions. Blaming ActiveX is like holding an operating system liable because they provide a way to delete a file. -- Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Microsoft Security MVP | Tustin, California USA | my web site |
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| reply to Steve said by Steve :said by goalieskates :Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF. I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came from the vendor - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has. it's hard for me believe that you haven't read the same articles i have over the past 4-6 years that included MS update being hacked through DNS poisoning as well as shipping some virus on cd-updates. anyway, here's the "i got lucky" link when searching for "microsoft ships infected":
»www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/25···nfected/
here's another one:
»www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xm···rea.html
and i know there are more.
and as far as this being proof that open source is not safer than closed (another poster), don't be silly. |
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| reply to Steve said by Steve :Blaming ActiveX is like holding an operating system liable because they provide a way to delete a file. I thought with IE and Temporary Internet Files, everyone blamed the operating system for not providing a way to delete a file? |
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| reply to Davebo_ said by Davebo_  SP 3 for XP was just recently released.... Folks running OEM AMD machines would call SP3 malware. What would you call? A Intel system running OEM windowsXP SP3.  |
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  Steve Security is inefficient Consultant join:2001-03-10 Tustin, CA
| reply to jig said by jig :and as far as this being proof that open source is not safer than closed (another poster), don't be silly. This incident demonstrates nothing more than one particular vendor had one particular quality control problem, and applying it to open source generally does indeed seem silly.
Steve — longtime open source contributor |
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| reply to slajoh01 said by slajoh01 :I agree, Firefox and Mozilla WILL become unsafe also just like IE. Firefox is gaining momentum and its market share is picking up. And that will result in more exploitations. They already have passed Microsoft at exploitations! -- The Firefox alternative. »www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ |
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 Mele20 Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI | And this has what to do with this thread topic?
BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature. |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31 Erie, PA edit: May 8th, @10:35PM
| The thread looks fine in Fx Mele20.
Check your browser part 1,524-6 again.
Edit* Line out. -- "When the questions get tough the tough pull a MuMu". - unknown |
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  Steve Security is inefficient Consultant join:2001-03-10 Tustin, CA
| reply to Mele20 said by Mele20 : BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature. Hmmm, looks fine to me - any chance you have the Vietnamese language pack installed?
*snicker*  |
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  AB Premium join:2006-04-04 Leesburg, VA
| said by Steve :said by Mele20 : BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature. Hmmm, looks fine to me - any chance you have the Vietnamese language pack installed? *snicker*  Phân thần thánh! 
Eh, I'll back her up on this one. It was the link within this post: »Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!
The margins are blown on page one of this thread for me, too-- page two is fine. |
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  IWillLoginSoon
@cgocable.net | reply to Mele20 I have the same problem on "page 1" while viewing the site anonymously (default thread settings). Resolution on this laptop is 1024x768.
Can the two unaffected members post some useful information - their screen resolutions? |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31 Erie, PA | My notebook is 1280x800
Tried to get Mele20 rendering issue using Fx v2.0.0.15 and Fx v3pre, IE7, and Opera 9. All are fine. -- "When the questions get tough the tough pull a MuMu". - unknown |
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  IWillLoginSoon
@cgocable.net | Thank you.
It seems AB found the culprit quickly. The link does not cause margin problems at 1280x1024 (for me). |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31 Erie, PA | You are welcome.  |
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| reply to IWillLoginSoon said by IWillLoginSoon :
Thank you.
It seems AB found the culprit quickly. The link does not cause margin problems at 1280x1024 (for me). My screen is at 1280x1024 and this thread is one of the worst I have seen for blown margins. I should have started Opera or Safari as they can handle it but neither Fx 1.5 or 2 can.
I just checked IE6 and it is not blown on that browser. -- "The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason |
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