joako
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| Allow the use of less than sign in forum posts
It's annoying if you use a less than sign, e.g.
[LESS THAN] 5
It just cuts off the rest of your post without any warning. I know its to prevent HTML tags but why not figure out another way to do it where you are blocking actual tags??? or replace the sign with the &lessthan; or whatever the hell the HTML code is?
This has happened to me > 5 times already I post a thread and come back later and it makes no sense because half is missing!
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | What about using the code tags and the less than/more thans within the code block?
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Johnny
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Any parser should be able to tell that a left angle bracket by itself is not HTML and ignore it. |
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cacroll
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May 5th, @10:24PM
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How about < 5?
How about < 5? It's not being blocked, it's just how HTML works. You can't write a < or > without writing them as < and > |
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Johnny
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| said by cacroll  :How about < 5? How about < 5? I know that, you know that, but jeez, this site is not supposed to require knowledge of character encoding to type a message. |
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drew
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that's not too hard, but I'll *sign*
I'd like to see it easier. |
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cacroll
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May 5th, @10:37PM
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said by Johnny :jeez, this site is not supposed to require knowledge of character encoding to type a message.
Life sucks. This site allows us to use HTML tags like <b>bold</b>. The forum software isn't intuitive.
Object.
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cacroll
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said by Johnny :Any parser should be able to tell that a left angle bracket by itself is not HTML and ignore it.
Define "by itself". Do you mean unpaired, or surrounded by spaces?
If the former, the parser would have to scan the entire message that you're writing, to check for pairs of < and > ? If the latter, you could write "if a < b" but couldn't write "if a<b"?
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Johnny
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| said by cacroll :said by Johnny :Any parser should be able to tell that a left angle bracket by itself is not HTML and ignore it. Define "by itself". Do you mean unpaired, or surrounded by spaces? I mean without being part of a valid HTML expression.
If the former, the parser would have to scan the entire message that you're writing, to check for pairs of < and > ? If the latter, you could write "if a < b" but couldn't write "if a<b"?
It has to scan it anyway, to look for the expression that it must assume the left angle is a part of. As you said, if it reaches the end without identifying a valid expression, it can either throw an error, throw away the text scanned up to that point (which is what it is doing now), or treat the text scanned as plain text.
The feature request is to treat scanned text that does not constitute a valid HTML expression as plain text and just output it.
The same is true for square brackets - the metalanguage or BNF for them is fairly limited, so it isn't hard to determine if the characters following a left bracket are making a valid expression. As soon as the first invalid character is encountered, it can bail and treat it as plain text. |
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joako
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said by cacroll :said by Johnny :jeez, this site is not supposed to require knowledge of character encoding to type a message. Life sucks. This site allows us to use HTML tags like <b>bold</b>. The forum software isn't intuitive. Object. So feature request to make the forum software intuitive.
FWIW this "bug" is not an issue with vbulletin.
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cacroll
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said by Johnny :said by cacroll :said by Johnny :Any parser should be able to tell that a left angle bracket by itself is not HTML and ignore it. Define "by itself". Do you mean unpaired, or surrounded by spaces? I mean without being part of a valid HTML expression. If the former, the parser would have to scan the entire message that you're writing, to check for pairs of < and > ? If the latter, you could write "if a < b" but couldn't write "if a<b"?
It has to scan it anyway, to look for the expression that it must assume the left angle is a part of. As you said, if it reaches the end without identifying a valid expression, it can either throw an error, throw away the text scanned up to that point (which is what it is doing now), or treat the text scanned as plain text. The feature request is to treat scanned text that does not constitute a valid HTML expression as plain text and just output it. The same is true for square brackets - the metalanguage or BNF for them is fairly limited, so it isn't hard to determine if the characters following a left bracket are making a valid expression. As soon as the first invalid character is encountered, it can bail and treat it as plain text.
I guess all that depends upon what "it" is. If the forum software allows plain old HTML, it's probably just an HTML exit. The HTML isn't checked, or rendered by the forum software, it's rendered by your browser when it's displayed.
As I pointed out to Joako, it's not that the forum software is preventing him from doing anything. The forum software lets him enter anything he wants to - just like most HTML based web page editors. The browser is the problem, when the post is rendered. If you have a "<" in the code without a closing ">", almost any thing can happen. But it's a browser problem, not the forum problem.
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jmorlan
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cacroll
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said by joako :So feature request to make the forum software intuitive. FWIW this "bug" is not an issue with vbulletin.
I've used vBulletin. They have a limited HTML clone, not real HTML, and it's a pain in the ass to do anything besides text.
Here, you just code HTML. If you muck up the HTML, learn to fix it. What you're complaining about isn't a bug, it's how HTML works.
Object to making the software intuitive.
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bobrk
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Other forum software makes it easy, why not here? Good project for justin . 
FWIW, I have no problem typing tags, been doing it for nearly 30 years.
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Object! |
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Dude111
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The easiest way to do this is have an option to DISABLE HTML in your post  |
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Justin and the other geniuses who've done absolutely amazing things with the coding of this site have got to be able to address this problem a little more intelligently than it's handled now.
It's not a matter of how difficult it is to type < or >. Lots of posts get cut off because the poster didn't understand how to type out the symbol. Perhaps BBR should automatically disable HTML when there is an open-close mismatch.
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Dude111
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I think its kinds strange justin only has HTML posting enabled.......
Most sites have HTML DISABLED (for security reasons)
Ah well... |
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