TK Junk Mail
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|  The law is on the RIAA's side - don't like it? get law chgd
This is just 1 more instance where the basic premise of copyright infringement has been upheld. But it also upholds the idea that when a court summonses records, you better produce them. And Purdue is open to a big lawsuit as well unless they backoff from their plans to help students share music illegally.
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fcisler
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Riverhead, NY | AFAIK, No court summoned any records. The RIAA did.
I was going to argue with you, but you are so in love with the patriot act that it's not even worth my time. |
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Nightfall
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said by TK Junk Mail  :This is just 1 more instance where the basic premise of copyright infringement has been upheld. But it also upholds the idea that when a court summonses records, you better produce them. And Purdue is open to a big lawsuit as well unless they backoff from their plans to help students share music illegally. I agree.
It isn't like figuring out who is responsible for this kind of thing is hard. I bet all a student has to do is look at the IP table and the usage. Its not like it would take days to figure this kind of thing out. |
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TK Junk Mail
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said by fcisler :AFAIK, No court summoned any records. The RIAA did. Well the BBR story says the court did order it:
Last week, a judge ordered the school to turn over identifying information about those students to the court. Marshall attempted to fight the issue, arguing that retrieving that information would be a costly and time-consuming process on the part of the school. However, the judge has denied the legitimacy of this response. He says that the university can easily turn over basic identifying information about the students without any “undue burden” and has ordered the school to do so.
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Nightshade
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Is there any evidence that Purdue is helping students share music illegally on their network or are you going by your knee jerk reaction and one sided belief that P2P networks are only used for illegal sharing of data?
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Doctor Four
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| Personally, I think it is the latter.
And I put someone else on ignore yesterday for such a
narrow minded opinion of p2p.
Take p2p out of the picture and replace that with any other
Internet protocol where files could be transferred between
two or more users (HTTP and FTP just to name two). Just
because it is p2p doesn't automatically mean that everything
being sent back and forth over that protocol is infringing
material. I'll bet there's an equal amount being traded via
other, less used means. And with the same ratio of infringing
content as well.
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Fluker
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Purdue has done a lot in terms of network security lately. Since last year they have started removing all wired access from public areas and they require authentication or VPN connections for everything (which means that pretty much all traffic is inspected for cleanlines)
Almost weekly there is something in the paper about people being caught doing something illegal with university internet.
Where it mos def fails however is when IT people setup random open WIFI near dorms and whatnot.
DC++ is extremely popular and actually highlights one of the most idiotic trends in the recording industries efforts.
By knocking down the technologies that people are using today, the RIAA is pushing people out and onto the next p2p provider, which is invariably faster, harder to track and more convenient.
So in the end, these goons are driving the evolution of technology that has taken so much control from them. |
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Doctor Four
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| Yeah, what happens when those students go completely sneaker-
net?
They will have no way of knowing that thousands of files are
being traded this way, and it will be impossible to stop
(short of banning PCs and things like portable hard drives,
USB flash drives and CD/DVD burners.)
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a333
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this will always be a cat-and-mouse game. As the **AA's try to act like they're still in the 60's, Bittorrent and other p2p software will only get better and better. And ultimately, it'll never be the customers/in this case, students, that win, as universities are forced to hire more IT staff, and buy filtering software and hardware for the **AA's demands.
IMHO, the **AA's are no more than a bunch of lawyers who try to use mere technicalities to make others enforce THEIR rules. If the **AA's want to enforce DCMA, let them do it themselves and shell out the money to do so, or at least cover the costs incurred by others to do so.
And yes, I am an avid user of BitTorrent and other p2p tech, and I proudly use it to "pirate" Linux distros. :\
And, here come the **AA shills with their piracy clubs...... |
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Nightshade
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For a lot of people P2P equals illegal file sharing and nothing else, period. Now don't get me wrong I do think that a significant amount of P2P file sharing is more than likely illegal but no one has done any studies on this. So who can really say how much P2P traffic is illegal file sharing.
Simple, no one can say because no one truly knows.
Someday I hope research is done on this issue and some evidence is presented on illegal and legal P2P file sharing and traffic.
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toadlife
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said by Nightfall :It isn't like figuring out who is responsible for this kind of thing is hard. I bet all a student has to do is look at the IP table and the usage. Its not like it would take days to figure this kind of thing out. If they use private IP scheme with NAT to the outside world, the IP address of the offenders would be meaningless. In that case, making it so they can figure out who is responsible requires a complete overhauling the network to include authetication and logging. |
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Kearnstd
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hey atleast this time it is a court order. i personally think anyone who offers a connection should always tell the RIAA to go FSCK yourself and come back with a court order.
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Nightshade
The Latter. |
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Underplay
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I bet this guy works for them. |
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a333
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lol hell yea they need a nice long FSCK
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