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Arion

join:2006-07-09
Marquette, MI
·HughesNet Satellit..

reply to sovtman
Re: Deliberate Limited Bandwidth 4pm to 12am ET

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.
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Vtblues
if you can't get out of it, get in to it
Premium
join:2006-05-29
Brookfield, VT
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said by Arion See Profile :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.
Plus it seems like a whole bunch of speculations and assumptions are being made about various values in the advanced diagnostics.
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sovtman

join:2007-04-20
Marlboro, VT

reply to Arion
said by Arion See Profile :

During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing.
But Arion, your language is far too passive. "Everyone" does not get on their system between 3:59PM and 4:01PM. That argument just doesn't make sense.

I understand shared bandwidth; I get it. But systematically reducing my speed by 90% for 8 hours a day, well it just isn't right.

I remember just a few months back, folks cheering the new FAP policy because it sped things up during prime time. But, now I get slower speeds than I ever have gotten in the evenings, and I've am a totally compliant non-fapper!


sovtman

join:2007-04-20
Marlboro, VT

reply to Vtblues
said by Vtblues See Profile :

said by Arion See Profile :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down.
Plus it seems like a whole bunch of speculations and assumptions are being made about various values in the advanced diagnostics.
Actually, I posted the advanced config stuff because I was hoping to get some insight from others...

But... I saw the underlying phenomenon with my own eyes. I was downloading a podcast a little before midnight, it was crawling along. At midnight, the speed just shot up, and downloaded the rest in less then a minute. That isn't speculation --- I saw it will my own eyes. And I have confirmed it with the hn speedtest at least two times.

I only jump on this board when I have a problem. This is a problem.


Simon3

@direcpc.com
»www.direcway.com/HUGHES/Doc/0/SI···1206.pdf

Explains what flow control is very breifly though

sovtman

join:2007-04-20
Marlboro, VT

said by Simon3 :

»www.direcway.com/HUGHES/Doc/0/SI···1206.pdf

Explains what flow control is very breifly though
Thanks! Every little bit helps.

There is always the distinct possibly that hn is so inept that this is a bug in the system. Hard to fathom a company that would anger customers with more a stringent FAP policy in MAY (to "improve" peak usage congestion) only to systematically and deliberately throttle prime usage in JAN.

It just doesn't make sense.

So, would love to see speed tests from others at 3:55pm ET and at 4:05pm ET. See if there is any pattern here.

Please post if you do so.


Vtblues
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join:2006-05-29
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reply to Simon3
said by Simon3 :

»www.direcway.com/HUGHES/Doc/0/SI···1206.pdf

Explains what flow control is very breifly though
Thank you Simon3. sovtman, this is a problem, a big one.
It's become pretty obvious that Hughes has screwed the pooch on this.
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vet

@sperry-marine.com

reply to Arion
said by Arion See Profile :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.
At $180/mo, Business Internet does not get you any faster page loads or ping times.

But it does give you consistently fast downloads.


jackpot316

join:2004-05-21
Hertford, NC

reply to sovtman
February 17th, 03:58PM - 66/33 kbps

February 17th, 03:56PM - 39/48 kbps

February 17th, 05:46PM - 164/35 kbps
I should have some real good ones for you today school is out around here so the net will be hot and the bandwidth throttled down so get ready. Bottom line it's just to many people for what they can accommodate They over sold their bandwidth.
I can only see one fix and that is to lower the fap even more. I really hate to say that,I am like some I need all I can get with what I use the net for.
But something has to give or come up with some type of time limit or something different, But now everyone can just drop hughes and leave me to have all that nice bandwidth for myself then I might see for once the speed I pay for.


jackpot316

join:2004-05-21
Hertford, NC

February 18th, 01:01PM - 30/36 kbps
February 18th, 12:59PM - 43/75 kbps

I am not fap But it sure looks like it, kids everywhere are out of school today and youtube and the music sites are hot and bandwidth is cut down because of this.

And there not a thing we can do about it, but take it or move where we can get some other type broadband
It is getting worse everyday speeds or slowing down more and more and the time where we get the best speed are getting smaller. This is all due to over sale By greedy hughes so what if a few thousand people call in and complain a day, They just give us a read script Like

"sorry we have tecs working on the problem and we will contact you in a few days" I know pretty much everyone has went through this same thing I have.

Aframe
Premium
join:2008-01-30
Uvalde, TX
·HughesNet Satellit..

[BQUOTE
They just give us a read script Like

"sorry we have tecs working on the problem and we will contact you in a few days" I know pretty much everyone has went through this same thing I have.
Got the "working on it" from level 4 today. When I asked her to check signal level and xpol she did and said that it was low would check it out and call back in 5 minutes. She called back and told me that an installer would be out to replace the radio and we would go from there. I wish myself good luck.
later
Frank

clintonv

join:2006-12-22
Live Oak, FL
·HughesNet Satellit..

reply to Arion
Not a real big surprise, but until Jan 8th 2008, I did not have this problem. This is clearly a case of limiting bandwidth on Hughes Net's part. They have overloaded the system.....I wouldn't really mind so much if they didnt LIE to you about what they are doing. Funny thing Hughes Net worked for me for 6 years, now it stops.
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Tomcatt1

join:2006-06-14
Honea Path, SC
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February 20th, @08:53AM

reply to Arion
said by Arion See Profile :

So whats the big surprise?? Nothing nefarious here. During peak time useage when everyone is on their system the speed go's down. It keeps the system from crashing. Unfortunately were on a shared bandwidth system and unless you have very deep pockets that is the price you pay for having any satellite internet whatsoever.
I'll have to disagree with you. What we're talking about is a distinct dropoff in speed at 4pm, then an immediate ramp up at midnight. Look at this screenshot above.

My speeds have returned to normal for the time being, but I believe you can see from the screenshot what has been reported by others.
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