WFThor
join:2006-01-08
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to DHRacer
Re: GameRail/Charter
I don't deny that you should get good service from your ISP, but that is out of our hands. I'm simply taking exception to the thread that seems to be blaming us for Charter's problems in this market.
Re:Still traveling over the oversold network, it depends on where his traffic is getting onto our network, and where Charter's problem is. Since we seem to help this user when he has problems with his Charter connection, it looks like the problem is further down the line than where we pick up his traffic.
GameRail is primarily intended for long haul gaming, where routing problems and overloaded routers have a higher chance of affecting your gaming. One of our users is Dallas gets routed to the west coast before heading to servers he wants to play on in Chicago; using GR he drops 70ms.
The fact that we can solve other problems I see as only doing more to help you, the end user. Ultimately it is up to you if you are willing to pay for that help, and I suspect that has a lot to do with if you have a choice in ISP or one that is willing to work with you to fix problems. It seems that most people don't however, and we offer them an option that they otherwise wouldn't have.
I would love to be able to provide GameRail for free for ever, but the realities are that maintaining a nationwide fiber network, with carrier class equipment, a software development team, and a network team isn't cheap. |
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deadi
Premium
join:2001-08-26
Perry, OH | If Gamerail can do it, why cant Charter? You would think that ISPs would want to provide good service for there customers. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by deadi  :If Gamerail can do it, why cant Charter? You would think that ISPs would want to provide good service for there customers. Quoted for truth. |
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SylphFi
Premium
join:2007-06-07
Moses Lake, WA | reply to deadi
Probably, Charter is bottlenecking at their upstream (L3, MCI, Globabl Crossing, etc), because they excessively oversubscribed the bandwidth available to them. |
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BryanOnFiber
join:2007-06-22
Brandon, FL
edit:
August 1st, @10:27AM
| Waste of money.
The money you will shell out to these scammers, you could get a better isp and tier and not worry about any latency.
Problem solved. |
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druber
join:2000-04-11
Marlborough, MA
 ·VOIPo
·Voip Street
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Are you a troll? Many (if not most) people have one real broadband solution available to them. If that sucks, they are screwed. Gamerail is charging, what, $12/month? Tell us how someone stuck with, say, charter, as their only provider, can get this far superior ISP for $12 more per month? |
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SkellBasher
Yes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac
join:2000-10-22
North Tonawanda, NY
| reply to WFThor
said by WFThor :I would love to be able to provide GameRail for free for ever, but the realities are that maintaining a nationwide fiber network, with carrier class equipment, a software development team, and a network team isn't cheap. There's no way you guys built out that fiber network unless you got a LOT of venture capital up front. $11.99 an month does not pay for quality transit. 
By what I can see, you're only riding the old Broadwing (now L3) backbone, and your entry into a market is predicated on negotiating a peering agreement with the ISP at some upstream aggregation point.
As DHRacer already brought up, you have no control over the network segments upstream or downstream from your arranged peering points. As such, you have zero control (or liability) over network issues on the residential ISP's network, or the networks after traffic exits your network.
It almost seems like a play to bring more transit traffic to L3, and take advantage of the 'ZOMG MY PING SUXXORZ LOL!!11' crowd. |
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CoxCable4
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | we needed gamerail back in 1998. I remember trying to frag on east coast servers on 784k sdsl and being routed to god knows where. course, those were in the cais days =P |
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IWLoneWolf
join:2005-12-09
Dallas, OR
 ·Charter Pipeline
·Qwest.net
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August 2nd, @12:28AM
| I have been testing Gamerail some it does cut my hops in half and have seen somes improvement at time using gamerail when my normal path to the server in Texas I play on give me high spiking pings.But Keep in mind this service is new,did the internet work the best everyone wanted it to when it first came out.Time and testing of this service for the user will be the real proof.If it helps a user with there connection to a game server, then they can decide if it is worth the cost or not if the performance difference is not enough to justified the cost do not use it and do not pay the cost.Example for me DSL is much better then dial-up for online gaming so I for go the cost difference for DSL,Thats my choice. |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
| reply to druber
said by druber :Are you a troll? Many (if not most) people have one real broadband solution available to them. If that sucks, they are screwed. Game-rail is charging, what, $12/month? Tell us how someone stuck with, say, charter, as their only provider, can get this far superior ISP for $12 more per month? No, are you a moronic jack-ass? Cause you certainly act like one. People are calling "shenanigans" on Game-rail implying that this is just a another way for Comcast to sell another tier.
If Game-rail is a solution to MORE THAN ONE ISP --- then that implication is weak. Amazingly other ISPs exist in other places in addition to more than one in a single area. The question had nothing to do with just a single area. |
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