TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Duhhhhhh I get NO SPAM!
For true! I have been on the "Internet" since it was the ARPANET; with the same email address rrichard@blythe.org. I get NO SPAM at all! I get all my real email, I get everything sent to me by "real" people; but I get absolutely no spam!
This is no magic, it's a simple technology available to anyone with a minor technological ability to manage their own computer system; I believe this is the case for almost everyone posting/reading this thread.
There is no excuse for anyone reading this, to be receiving SPAM. None!
Blocking/eliminating all spam is practically FREE, easy, and a no-brainer.
If you all want a brief introduction as to HOW, write me at the address above.
Bob
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2kmaro
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| Wouldn't it be in the spirit of this website to provide a description of the process you use to not get SPAM? Remember that most people don't have the luxury of actually controlling their own email server and don't want any added expense of signing up with some other service (besides their ISP) to receive email.
My own solution - both at work and at my residence is a 2 or 3 layered one:
My ISP (who's business service the company uses) does pretty good SPAM/phishing filtering at their end - it's user adjustable, but for the business side, we pretty much have to keep it 'loose' to make sure we don't lose any business related email. Meanwhile on the desktops (all using MSFT Outlook) we use a 3rd party filter: Cloudmark's Desktop ( www.cloudmark.com ). Very effective. Most people also have the Outlook built-in junk email filter turned on (not real great but does catch some stuff). So with that setup, people in our offices who used to see 40 to 100 SPAM mails a day now maybe see 1 or 2 hit their inbox once a week.
So in response to "do we care" - in a way I don't because the filtering is doing the job. On the other hand, yes I do because I have to pay an annual fee to keep a "SPAM free" inbox. That's besides the real world fact that the majority of traffic on the internet consists of SPAM emails - there'd be a whole lot more bandwidth for us all if they'd just nuke the entire SPAMming conglomerate! |
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kpatz
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Manchester, NH | reply to TamaraB
And by posting your email address in this thread, you're gonna start getting SPAM pretty soon. |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
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said by TamaraB  :This is no magic, it's a simple technology available to anyone with a minor technological ability to manage their own computer system; I believe this is the case for almost everyone posting/reading this thread. I manage my own email server running on a Linux box and I have managed to reduce my SPAM by about 99%. I use a combination of the open source applications procmail and spamprobe. I usually get about 400 or so SPAM messages in my special IMAP "Junk" folder over a 24 hour period.
Occasionally, a collection of SPAM will manage to get through due to SPAMmer technique changes but spamprobe usually adapts itself to it once I give it some of the trash to train on. I did use RBL for a while but I found many false positives with that route when relying on only one list. A better solution is the DeepSix (»www.deep6tech.com/) device that relies on multiple RBL's to generate a score.
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by n2jtx : I did use RBL for a while but I found many false positives with that route when relying on only one list.
I use RBLs with "delay_checks" which allows milters to have a go first. The two milters, which alone account for nearly 100% of the spam blocking is milter greylist, and milter-regex set up thus:
# reject things that look like they might come from a dynamic address
reject "Looks like an end-user address [rgx]"
connect /[0-9][0-9]*\-[0-9][0-9]*\-[0-9][0-9]*/ //
connect /[0-9][0-9]*\.[0-9][0-9]*\.[0-9][0-9]*/ //
connect /[0-9]{12}/e //
#
reject "Malformed HELO (not a domain, no dot)"
helo /\./n
#
reject "No RDNS [rgx]"
connect /\[.*\]/ //
#
reject "Proaxad end-user SPAMMER [rgx]"
connect /.*\.fbx\..*/ //
#
reject "Verizon Dynamic IP"
connect /.*\.pub\.verizon\.net/ //
#
reject "Verizon Fios IP"
connect /.*\.fios\..*/ //
#
reject "Static End-User IP"
connect /.*\.static\..*/ //
connect /^static\-.*/ //
connect /^cpe\-.*/ //
connect /^CPE\-.*/ //
connect /^cpc\-.*/ //
connect /^pc\-.*/ //
connect /^port\-.*/ //
connect /.*\.shared\..*/ //
connect /.*\.rev\..*/ //
connect /.*\.ptr\..*/ //
#
reject "Dynamic pool"
connect /.*\.pool\..*/ //
connect /^pool\-.*/ //
connect /^port\-.*/ //
connect /.*\.pools\..*/ //
connect /.*\-POOL\-.*/ //
#
#
reject "End-User"
connect /^host\-.*/ //
#
reject "Dynamic Client"
connect /.*\.client\..*/ //
#
reject "Broadband"
connect /\.broadband\./ //
#
reject "VDSL"
connect /^VDSL.*/ //
#
reject "PPPOE"
connect /.*\.pppoe\..*/ //
connect /.*\.pppool\..*/ //
#
reject "Dynamic"
connect /.*\.dyn\..*/ //
connect /^dyn\-.*/ //
connect /\.dynamicIP\./ //
connect /.*\.dynamic\..*/ //
connect /.*\.xd\-dynamic\..*/ //
#
reject "Dialup"
connect /.*\.dip\..*/ //
connect /.*\.dip[0-9]\..*/ //
connect /.*\.dial\..*/ //
connect /.*\.dialup\..*/ //
#
reject "cust-adsl"
connect /.*\.cust\-adsl\..*/ //
#
reject "DHCP"
connect /.*\.dhcp\..*/ //
connect /.*\.adsl\-dhcp\..*/ //
#
reject "End-User"
connect /.*\.user\..*/ //
connect /^user\-.*/ //
connect /^softbank.*/ //
connect /.*\.intra\..*/ //
connect /.*\.numericable\..*/ //
connect /.*\.cablelink\..*/ //
#
reject "adsl"
connect /.*adsl.*/ //
connect /^adsl\-.*/ //
#
reject "dsl"
helo /.*dsl\..*/
#
reject "internetdsl"
connect /.*\.internetdsl\..*/ //
#
reject "PPP"
connect /.*ppp\-.*/ //
connect /^ppp\-.*/ //
#
reject "HSD1"
connect /.*\.hsd1\..*/ //
#
#
reject "Cable"
connect /.*\.cable\..*/ //
#
reject "Road Runner"
connect /.*\.res\.rr\.com/ //
connect /.*\.biz\.rr\.com/ //
#
reject "PayPal Phish"
header /From/ /.*<service@paypal.com>.*/
#
The idea being that anything coming directly from an end-user IP is spam. The great part of this is that the connection is immediately dropped at connect-time.
So, inbound mail has to negotiate regex-filtering, then grey-listing, then it has to pass several RBLs, and finally spamassassin. I get literally NO spam at all, and only about 2-3 spams get caught by spamassassin each week.
I use dyndns pointing MX directly to my dynamic ADSL IP, and use a pay service for outbound mail; smarthosted via smptauth (panix.com, $100/year for basic shell/smtp). I have used the same email address since 1984!
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to kpatz
said by kpatz :And by posting your email address in this thread, you're gonna start getting SPAM pretty soon.
No I won't. I have been even posting it to usenet for years, and no problem. 
Bob
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to 2kmaro
said by 2kmaro :Wouldn't it be in the spirit of this website to provide a description of the process you use to not get SPAM? I pretty much did in an earlier post. The "key" is to use your work station as your personal inbound mail server. Today, with "always-on" connections, that's not a problem, nor is it difficulty.
This way, you have total control over what email you will allow into your Inbox, you can filter what is appropriate for your own personal needs, you can block, black-list, white-list..... etc. No one but you, can determine what is best in terms of email security. I do not tolerate any spam at all. I also will not tolerate missed "important" email (as defined by me). Email is "personal" and therefor it's control has to be "personalised".
Remember that most people don't have the luxury of actually controlling their own email server This is not a "luxury" these days. The facilities to do so are readily available. My DynDNS MX pointer costs $29.00/Year, my Domain costs $8.00/Year from GoDaddy. SMTP software is free. I use a pay outbound SMTP server instead of Verizon's SMTP server mainly because Verizon gets RBL listed often, and Verizon makes you lose the ability to control your From address (as does smtp.gmail.com; also FREE)
and don't want any added expense of signing up with some other service (besides their ISP) to receive email I understand. However the benefits of running your own email means that if you switch your ISP, you don't have to change your address. Your email address becomes independent of your ISP, and you have total control over spam, phishes, and viruses. The minimum cost is $37.00/Year; pretty cheap for what you get.
So in response to "do we care" ... On the other hand, yes I do because I have to pay an annual fee to keep a "SPAM free" inbox.
I care for entirely different reasons. I don't see $37.00/Year as any big deal, but I totally hate intrusive email spam, web spam, phone spam, fax spam, I find them terribly offensive. Of course, I come from the "old days" of the internet, where commercialization was illegal! I also can't tolerate web advertising, and have my graphical browsers shut down so tight that all I see is what I want to see, with NO ADS; mainly I use Lynx!
...the majority of traffic on the internet consists of SPAM emails ...
AND anoying Web adverts!
Yeah, we have become a nation of Ferengi!
Bob
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