ditka_b
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| reply to bentman78
Re: Pirate Bay should save money for defending lawsuits
Technically even tho you pay for the channel you are stealing, They believe removing the commercials breaks any contract you have by paying for the channel.
So in effect you are no better than someone downloading movies.
Now if you downloaded the episodes legally from say Itunes you could legally watch them without commercials. |
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Snickerdo
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| said by ditka_b  :Technically even tho you pay for the channel you are stealing, They believe removing the commercials breaks any contract you have by paying for the channel Contract? Excuse me, but no one put a contract before me and made me sign before I received off-air analog and digital television. They can argue the removal of commercials all they want, though it's a poor argument. I can just as easily record the TV show to a DVD without recording the commercials, or hit FF on my PVR when watching the shows I recorded on my own at a time of my choice. Download the TV shows is absolutely no different.
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ditka_b
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Barrington, IL | It's illegal to download TV shows with out paying or being granted a free download by the network.
No matter how you word it or how strongly you deny it. You break the law downloading shows. In doing so you are no better than the rest lol |
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Snickerdo
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| said by ditka_b :It's illegal to download TV shows with out paying or being granted a free download by the network. No matter how you word it or how strongly you deny it. You break the law downloading shows. In doing so you are no better than the rest lol Actually, where I am, it is perfectly legal - and has been tested in the courts - that downloading itself is not a crime. I will continue to download TV shows off the net, knowing I'm breaking no laws, being quite content with my own morality, and go to sleep easy knowing that despite the fact that the world is filled with morons, I am not one of them.
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ditka_b
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Barrington, IL | Congrats I did not realize you were canadian. Hows that cdr and dvdr tax treating you? That's what pays for your lienient laws on copyrights isnt it?
If you are calling me a moron more power to you lol |
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Snickerdo
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| said by ditka_b :Congrats I did not realize you were canadian. Hows that cdr and dvdr tax treating you? That's what pays for your lienient laws on copyrights isnt it? If you are calling me a moron more power to you lol The levy is only on CD-Rs - DVD-Rs are exempt and are actually cheaper to buy then CD-Rs. Such a levy also exists in the United States, but only on 'audio' CD-Rs and standalone CD recorders. In Canada, there is a (smaller) levy applied to all recordable CD-R discs. Most people consider a paltry penance on a 700MB disc to be a small price to pay to not have to deal with the same bullshit that goes on in the USA, and many a judge has ruled that the fact that the levy exists means that, in affect, we are paying for the right to copy and distribute music to friends and family on a recordable CD and therefore it is not considered infringement. More information on the recording levy is available at the following URL:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_co···y#Canada
Canadian judges - the people who interpret and set common law - aren't elected, and therefore aren't a target of lobby groups, and as a result they tend to make much more sane decisions about our rights and how they exist in the bounds of the law. You'll noticed that one such judge ruled that the levy no longer applied to MP3 players, such as the iPod.
As for the moron comment, I didn't call anyone a moron specifically, but if the shoe fits...
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ditka_b
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January 20th, @07:07PM
| You might consider whining about something less paltry than a 1.99 fee that you don't even have to pay. I'll gladly pay the fee for both my core 2 duo laptops from Apple and not whine nor call others names.
And I'll also relish every day that I get to live in the USA. |
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Snickerdo
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January 20th, @07:08PM
| said by ditka_b :You might consider whining about something less paltry than a 1.99 fee that you don't even have to pay. I'll gladly pay the fee for both my core 2 duo laptops from Apple and not whine nor call others names. And I'll also relish every day that I get to live in the USA. ... wrong thread, dude.
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ditka_b
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RideRed
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So what? I'm sure you always drive 65 in a 65 too. Everyone picks and chooses what laws they break and those they obey.
I break at least 1 law nearly every day and could give a crap less. |
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bentman78
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I fast forward pas commercials on my DVR...is that stealing too?
Tivo used to skip them entirely, so Tivo was stealing?
Mythtv Allows simple video editing to remove commercials, so people who build their own DVR using MythTV are thieves?
Why pay iTunes for a TV show that I can get free through my DVR/VCR/MYthTV?
IF you want to believe the hype about not watching commercials is stealing go right ahead and watch them. I prefer to watch TV on my terms.
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grandpinaple
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January 20th, @11:36PM
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For the last time DOWNLOADING IS LEGAL NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS BEEN SUED FOR DOWNLOADING GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Also stop saying stealing, there is a drastic difference between depriving an owner of physical property and depriving an owner of potential revenue on an intangible product. |
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TK Junk Mail
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| said by grandpinaple :Also stop saying stealing, there is a drastic difference between depriving an owner of physical property and depriving an owner of potential revenue on an intangible product. The difference is merely semantics by those who don't like people calling what they are doing thievery. They hang their defense of their immoral actions on technical legal definitions.
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Snickerdo
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| said by TK Junk Mail :The difference is merely semantics by those who don't like people calling what they are doing thievery. They hang their defense of their immoral actions on technical legal definitions. Okay, by that same token, I could call you a moron. Sure, I may have no actual backing to call you a moron, but it is what I think. The same thing applies to your whole moral/theft argument. Just because you think it is theft, doesn't mean those around you consider it the same.
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TK Junk Mail
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| said by Snickerdo :Okay, by that same token, I could call you a moron. Sure, I may have no actual backing to call you a moron, but it is what I think. You think? Not based on your posts.
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Snickerdo
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| said by TK Junk Mail :You think? Not based on your posts. Oh with wit like that, you could outsmart a six year old  |
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