Sweet Witch
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I've got no problem with anyone who wants to spend their life downloading, except when it sucks away my bandwidth. Why should we pay the exact same amount and I basically get punished because I don't hog the channel?? If they want to use my bandwidth, then they should either pay part of my bill or give me some cash.
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MxxCon
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1 edit | or isp should have proper setup where my use does not affect your connection.
instead of trying to cut every corner and do absolute minimum got get the signal.
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Sweet Witch
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said by MxxCon  :
or isp should have proper setup where my use does not affect your connection. instead of trying to cut every corner and do absolute minimum got get the signal.
That would be fine too. I've got a neighbor who spends all day downloading everything he can find (why I don't know because he never has the time to watch any of it) and until they capped him, my 15/2 connection slowed to DSL speeds.
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TKJunkMail
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said by Sweet Witch :I've got no problem with anyone who wants to spend their life downloading, except when it sucks away my bandwidth. Why should we pay the exact same amount and I basically get punished because I don't hog the channel?? If they want to use my bandwidth, then they should either pay part of my bill or give me some cash. I agree. But the cable companies aren't overly concerned with download bandwidth. It is the upload bandwidth drain that causes concerns with bittorrent. And before all the "I paid for it and I'll use it" whiners start chiming in, the networks were NEVER designed to support non-stop usage of the upload bandwidth you get with your subscription. If the networks were designed to handle that, most people couldn't afford the monthly bill. Every single cable broadband provider prohibits running servers and the usage of an unmodified bittorrent client breaks that prohibition. So the companies are entirely within their rights to block bittorent.
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Sweet Witch
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said by bogey780 :
Trying to keep up with bt is a losing battle as it'll grow to consume available space.
Do what you want, just don't be so damned greedy and causing others grief along the way. 
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hopeflicker
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Sweet Witch :I've got no problem with anyone who wants to spend their life downloading, except when it sucks away my bandwidth. Why should we pay the exact same amount and I basically get punished because I don't hog the channel?? If they want to use my bandwidth, then they should either pay part of my bill or give me some cash. Every single cable broadband provider prohibits running servers and the usage of an unmodified bittorrent client breaks that prohibition. So the companies are entirely within their rights to block bittorent. I think i read somewhere that there are some providers that dont care if you run servers. And for the TOS regarding servers, those are hardly ever enforced. I mean, how can they tell?
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amungus
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"It is the upload bandwidth drain that causes concerns with bittorrent."
That, and a billion connections that keep coming and going from all reaches of the known (and unknown) internet....
IMHO, the use of upload from most home connections isn't the biggest concern... Most cable networks actually CAN handle people using their upload on a fairly regular basis... so can DSL...
If someone uploaded all day to their own website, for instance, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
If people upload an hour long video to youtube or wherever, it's not that bad...
But, if one sits there and has 100's of connections open and they're constantly switching on and off to various places, the ISP's routers then get a little congested and all that starts affecting other people's traffic. Really, even with 1 or 2 Mbps upload, a user uploading to one place at a time does FAR less damage than a user that is using that bandwidth and having it route to the ends of the earth...
just my 2 cents. not trying to whine that everyone should constantly be juicing the system... |
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thender2
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3 edits | reply to Sweet Witch
said by Sweet Witch :I've got no problem with anyone who wants to spend their life downloading, except when it sucks away my bandwidth. Why should we pay the exact same amount and I basically get punished because I don't hog the channel?? If they want to use my bandwidth, then they should either pay part of my bill or give me some cash. If you're forced to think of it in those terms, your ISP sucks and oversells too much. OOL comes to mind, they do that like crazy.
It's easy to have the fastest on paper speeds. It's hard to make them useable.
I have neighbors with open WAPs that have at least five people on them.. at any time in the day(before I did him a favor and passworded his wireless), the speeds were 50/100 with 400 ms pings.. after, it was 2000/1500 kbps. He uses the same ISP as me, and I get MORE speed than I pay for.. and it's never slowed down before.
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