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major marco
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A Sellout is a Sellout is a Sellout

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Somewhere Bram Cohen is annoyed...
Blah Cohen blah. Cohen Cohen blah blah blah. Who cares. All I hear is Cohen is a sell out. Period. DRM will be the death of BT no matter how many coats of sugar are applied to fool everyone into thinking DRM is good for consumers.


dr3yec

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You sir hit the nail on the head. It will be the down fall of bitorrent. I see it already. Do you smell another napster? What a shame. When will they realize people are not going for drm. I wont ever touch a thing with drm. If everything eventually goes to drm. I guess my media days will be over.


Combat Chuck
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said by major marco See Profile :

DRM will be the death of BT no matter how many coats of sugar are applied to fool everyone into thinking DRM is good for consumers.
How will DRM kill bittorrent? At this point BT exists and will continue to exist in spite of anything Cohen does; it may kill his particular store that happens to use bittorrent as a method of distributing files, but that has nothing to do with bittorrent in and of itself. Saying DRM will kill BT makes about as much sense as saying DRM will kill TCP/IP.
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Nerdtalker
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I guess what's ironic is that what's currently killing DRM right now IS BT.

So, BT embraces DRM, BT kills DRM, BT kills itself... Funny.

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reply to dr3yec
There is a program that you can download and remove the DRM from many files especially music download services. Even works for video

all you do is download what you want open it inside this program and it re-records it into another file and strips the DRM off it. Plays like it normally would no loss in sound or video and can be burned or uploaded to any portable device.


howdydoody

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people are not going for drm? you'd better let Apple know that no one's buying songs off of iTunes.

err...wait..


swhx7
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reply to Combat Chuck
Correct, but it's important to mention the reason bittorrent will go on.

It's because it's a free and open standard. The protocol is publicly documented and free from copyright and patent encumbrances. There's even open source sample code in the form of the original client which is under a BSD-like license.

The way to create technology of enduring value to the world is to set it free.


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Good point. If it's convenient, they will pay for it. iTunes is the killer app that makes the iPod even better then it is. iTunes is convenient, easy to use and it does pod-casts or net-casts if you prefer.

For a BitTorrent Video site, I think if it's the only FAST service that can download at an acceptable rate, then it has a better chance then others. It also needs to be user friendly and it need to be HIGH DEFINITION. Not only could it beat other on-line video sites, but it could even hurt/beat HD-DVD or BlueRay....

As for the DRM, well it's obviously a noble cause to protect the author's interests but it also shouldn't stand in the way of the paying customer to actually use the media. When I say paying customer, I mean payed once! If the DRM doesn't restrict me to play it on my TV, PC, portable media player or mobile phone... the DRM is no longer a problem and just fades into the back-ground!


Maxo
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reply to howdydoody
said by howdydoody :

people are not going for drm? you'd better let Apple know that no one's buying songs off of iTunes.

err...wait..
I agree. I don't like DRM, but go out on the street and ask people what they think of DRM. Their response will be in unison "What's DRM?"
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