Painless
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Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah!
You bring some interesting points but fail to explain why my hand/ear/leg or whatever comes into contact with a cell phone that's in use, I can feel getting warm. Also, don't you think it's possible that some people are more or less sensitive to stimuli than others? Such as people who walk on fire and walk on water. I think it's important here to keep your mind open to possibilities that go beyond what your eye can see. It doesn't really matter to me that you don't believe in what you can not see or quantify scientifically, what concerns me is the tunnel vision so many people have. At one time in our history it was believed that the world was flat and people who believed it was round were ridiculed and called weird. As it turns out, the world IS round. Time will show that cell phones are not as safe as you think they are. |
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nekkidtruth
You fail at life.
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London, ON
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| I'm not at all denying you may think you have the ability to sense the radiation but I do have to fill you in on a fairly well known secret (read: fact). Cell phones do in fact get warm when in use. Your hand (which adds to the heat), your ear (Which adds to the heat) and your leg (which adds to the heat) are all functioning within normal parameters. These are all normal sensations people have when using a cell phone. I don't see where anything you have described is any different from anyone else.
They are small devices who generate quite a bit of power within themselves, so there's more than enough reason for them to "heat up". The fact that you feel this "heat" doesn't mean you can feel or sense the radiation. Unless of course we're missing something....
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treetop1000
join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY
| reply to Painless
Wait, you seem to be confusing urban legends with factual evidence. We are not talking about urban legends here.
No walking on fire or water. By your reasoning, fire is a health concern and we should not expose ourselves directly to it. So is water, we could actually drown. -UNSAFE!!-
-well duh--
There is no factual evidence that cellphones can cause illness of any kind, excluding chemical poisoning caused by actually ingesting the cellphone and it's battery.
You seem to believe that since microwave ovens make water hot, cellphones do the same thing since they use the same range of microwave frequencies.
False analogy.
The woman in the article claimed the same things, but I have not seen any evidence that there were double blind tests done to confirm her self-diagnosis. In other words, she -believes- the wifi makes her sick, so that justifies her attack on the technology.
Check the source. It's England, these are the same folks who supposedly witnessed "spontaneous combustion" of people. (I think they tried to blame microwaves for that as well...)(something about a Russian death ray)
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Painless
@comcast.net | reply to nekkidtruth
Unfortunately I don't have anything else to add here as I have said all that I have to say about this. If you like, please feel free to re-read my comments and hopefully this will be much clearer to you. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
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| reply to nekkidtruth
I fully agree with you, DSU. And as for as the UNREGISTERED guest's comments go, the fact that he "senses" these things are all psychological, as for as I am concerned. That is the one thing that is different about ALL human beings: the mind.
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
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said by treetop1000  :You seem to believe that since microwave ovens make water hot, cellphones do the same thing since they use the same range of microwave frequencies.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't cellphones range from 850MHz to 1900MHZ (2400 MHz for my T-Mobile Wi-Fi phone), and microwaves run at MUCH HIGHER frequencies?
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BloodRoses
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| reply to Painless
said by Painless :
Such as people who walk on fire and walk on water. When, exactly, was the last time you saw someone walking on water?
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Painless
@comcast.net
| That's exactly my point. I've NEVER seen anyone walk on water... so why should I believe it's even possible? Millions of people think it's already happened. Just because I have not walked on water myself doesn't mean that I can't or that you can't. Just because you can not feel your cell phone's radiation doesn't mean other people will not be able to feel it. All people are like snow flakes, each person is very unique with their own special strengths and weakness'. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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said by PolarBear :I fully agree with you, DSU. And as for as the UNREGISTERED guest's comments go, the fact that he "senses" these things are all psychological, as for as I am concerned. That is the one thing that is different about ALL human beings: the mind. Careful, this is the infamous "taylor troll" that rants on music pirates who question his view on P2P.  |
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PolarBear
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Riverside, WA | Good point, moonpuppy. I shouldn't have even bothered commenting on Taylor's gibberish.
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clonehappy
join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN | reply to PolarBear
No, a standard microwave oven uses 2400MHz, just like Wifi and cordless phones. But, wifi broadcasts using milliwatts of power, where a powerful microwave oven is "broadcasting" over a thousand watts. |
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FekLar
@execulink.com
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All electronic devices and power sources heat up when in use. As the electricity flows through the phone's electronics, the circuits will give off heat. Also, a battery will give off heat as it generates electricity through chemical reaction. Unless the phone's a major power hog, the most heat will be put out by the battery as it drains. That's probably the heat source you're feeling.
The signal from a cell phone is an oscillating microwave transmission, so it might theoretically induce some water molecule oscillation, but it's not a lot of power to shove around water molecules. Any heat generated (and I doubt it'd even be 1 degree Celsius) would be masked by what's put out by the battery's chemical reaction and the electricity flowing through the phone as it overcomes the resistance of the circuits. |
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