newtodsl123
join:2005-01-08
Sterling Heights, MI
| Comcast disconnects for using P2P
Comcast has over the past 2 days has implemented a system to disconnect the cable connection if using P2P in my area.
I did some change in settings (upload & download rate, connecting cable modem directly to computer) but I have confirmed that Comcast DOES disconnect. The cable modem lights are blinking as though it is working but traffic to and from internet does not get through.
I had to reboot the cable modem, D Link VOIP Accelerator (DI-102), Dlink wireless modem, Sunrocket Gizmo to get it going again.
Apparently all ISPs are going to put the clause in the agreement for "excessive use". Such a clause met with some difficulty in France but looks like US has started already implementing it. |
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Big_D
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Augusta, GA | Sorry, gotta call on this one.
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NormanS
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| reply to newtodsl123
You have some indeterminate cable modem, and a wireless modem? And a Sunrocket "Gizmo"? The only item you gave a specific identity to was the D-Link DI-102. But no information on how it all interconnected, or even which P2P application you are using.
You need to learn how to properly formulate a problem statement, including properly identifying the models of the equipment, and how it is interconnected.
Or did you just mean for this to be a rant?
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peerimpact
join:2005-11-07
Londonderry, VT
1 edit | Plug straight into the cable modem and see if your connection drops .
Many routers choke on too many connections being open .
Can you tell us what p2p client you are using?
If it is using protocol encryption?
What ports you have open for the p2p client?
Do you use uPNP with the p2p client ?
ISPs tend not block any p2p traffic but they might shape the traffic if they identify specific p2p traffic on the network. |
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Morty
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1 edit | reply to Big_D
said by Big_D  :Sorry, gotta call on this one. Agreed...
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djdanska
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| reply to peerimpact
said by peerimpact :Plug straight into the cable modem and see if your connection drops . Many routers choke on too many connections being open . He is right. I can only open so many connections on my router. If i open up too many, it will eventually freeze up my connection.
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Quaoar
join:2004-08-11
Fort Collins, CO | How do you open " too many connections on your router "?
Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service.
Q |
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newtodsl123
join:2005-01-08
Sterling Heights, MI
2 edits | reply to newtodsl123
I hope this is BS myself !! Unfortunately it is not !!
I have been using P2P for about 3 months now and have not had a single issue.
My connection in the order:
Cable Modem - Dlink DCM 202
DLink VOIP Accelerator - Dlink DI 102
Wireless Router - Dlink WBR 1310
Behind the router is the Computer (wired) and SunRocket Gizmo.
Using BitComet 0.70. No PeerGuardian.
I am going to try to directly connect the computer to the cable modem and try it again. I will post the results.
Praying that it will work and it was my router that could not handle so many connections. Is there a paramter to tweak for the router?
I am sorry about the previous abrupt post. I was frustrated and pissed and given wrong information !!
The settings on the Wireless Router are:
Enable uPnP - Yes
Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes
Enable Gaming Mode - Yes
Enable Multicast Streams - Yes
Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005 |
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cwagner17
join:2003-03-13
Hatfield, PA
3 edits | Check your router log. Every D-link router I have owned would reboot for no reason. The WBR-1310 is essentially a Di-524 repackaged in a new case. This could be the disconnects you are experiencing. Best test is to bypass the router and see what happens.
Also check this thread out:
»DI-524 rev.D. Upgrade choice: DI-624 rev.D or WBR-1310 ? |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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| reply to newtodsl123
said by newtodsl123 :Is there a paramter to tweak for the router? The settings on the Wireless Router are: Enable uPnP - Yes Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes Enable Gaming Mode - Yes Enable Multicast Streams - Yes Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005 I don't know about your router. No setting in mine. I tweak the client. Using BitTornado, and limiting peer connections to just 60. Only run on download at any given time. I'd halve the peer connections for two downloads; but I have never really had to run more than one at a time.
With some routers, or modems (older models), the peer connections may need to be reduced; or even the upload BW choked at the client.
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robct
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join:2004-04-09
Waterbury, CT | reply to newtodsl123
same thing happening to me. every morning i wake up now with internet not working - have to restart modem for it to work again. |
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espaeth
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| reply to Quaoar
said by Quaoar :How do you open " too many connections on your router "? SOHO routers are basically just NAT boxes. In order to provide the translation it needs to create a table entry for every connection (so it knows which conversation goes to which PC on the inside). If that table fills up, or you try to open too many connections too quickly all bets are off on how the router will deal with it.
-Eric |
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
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join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
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| I've been using Comcast and P2P for over 3 years and have never had any disconnects due to them.
Yes, I've overloaded many SOHO routers with too much traffic; but I solved that problem by building linux gateway boxes and by purchasing (and implementing) enterprise cisco routers and switches.
[alright, the switches are not exacly today's models, but I did not shell out thousands of $ for them either  ] |
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grazed
join:2006-10-15
Havertown, PA
2 edits | reply to newtodsl123
quote:
I hope this is BS myself !! Unfortunately it is not !!
don't assume.
quote:
Using BitComet 0.70.
welcome to unfinished, mediocre beta software.
quote:
The settings on the Wireless Router are:
Enable uPnP - Yes
Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes
Enable Gaming Mode - Yes
Enable Multicast Streams - Yes
Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005
all that this tells us, is that you need to update your firmware.
quote:
I have been using P2P for about 3 months now and have not had a single issue.
well, if that is so, then don't assume and try to analyze a situation such as stating something like this...
quote:
Comcast has over the past 2 days has implemented a system to disconnect the cable connection if using P2P in my area.
I did some change in settings (upload & download rate, connecting cable modem directly to computer) but I have confirmed that Comcast DOES disconnect. The cable modem lights are blinking as though it is working but traffic to and from internet does not get through.
...without having any experience in the P2P background.
PS - isp's are THROTTLING bandwidth on common P2P ports. not terminating your connection.
most likely, it sounds like you are having some remote routing issues. |
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liew
@com.sg | reply to newtodsl123
Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P - p2p TVants?
what technology they are using?
I just tried a online p2p TV software - TVants, which can stream and watch online TV channels. Mainly chinese channels. But I do see some channels likes ESPN..... |
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Morty
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join:2004-09-18
| reply to Quaoar
Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P
said by Quaoar :How do you open " too many connections on your router "? Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service. Q Simple, the mass amount of traffic that bittorent uses uses up either the routers cpu or memory... Causes it to lag out or reset, it can be avoided by lowering the max number of connections/storms in bittorent. |
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priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA
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| reply to newtodsl123
said by newtodsl123 :DLink VOIP Accelerator - Dlink DI 102 My money is on this puppy being the root cause of the problem.
It makes a half-hearted attempt at queueing the traffic. Probably just runs out of buffers and locks up. Try it without this in the picture. Do some basic troubleshooting and eliminate what you can. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| reply to Morty
said by Morty :said by Quaoar :How do you open " too many connections on your router "? Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service. Q Simple, the mass amount of traffic that bittorent uses uses up either the routers cpu or memory... Causes it to lag out or reset, it can be avoided by lowering the max number of connections/storms in bittorent. I agree, I would also suggest he takes a look a windows. Windows xp sp2 introduced a 10 half open connections limit. This can some times be the issue especially if the client is set up wrong.
It can be can sometimes be related to how many people are on the torrent, and if its using the public dht network, they can flood you off the swarm if you have weak equipment.
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Rob
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fonzbear2000
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join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN | reply to newtodsl123
i run file share 24/7 and never get disconnected
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