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First of all, thanks once again BBR for your yellow journalism tactics when it comes to patent matters. I suppose it's good for you guys to rile up the masses.
Second, thanks also for those oh-so neutral reporting words of "any" System and method . . . 
If anyone had bothered to spend a minute or two looking at the claims, which are what define the invention, and not the title alone or BBR's silliness, you'd see that there are certain limitations built into the invention. That's not even taking into account the limitations that are in the file wrapper.
The words that finally were added to the claims to get the patent allowed included, "wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
Interdiction is discussed in the patent as given below:
"The information contained in service security server 198 may be used by the network to implement conditional access using two cooperative methods: interdiction and encryption. Interdiction is a technique where network devices, including but not limited to the metro POP and site POP switches/routers 112, 116, 126, 140, 170, 196, and/or 258, prevent routing of content to specific subscribers or regions based upon one or more access lists, geographic locations, or any other appropriate parameters. Interdiction techniques on the switches may include, but are not limited to, port access lists, multicast join prevention, multicast join to alternate source, and similar techniques applied to virtual local area networks (VLANs) as well as ports of devices. Encryption is a technique where video and audio streams are rendered unplayable by cryptographic techniques under the control of service security server 198. This content can only be rendered playable by cryptographic information distributed by service security server 198 to specific customer premises devices including, but not limited to, set-top boxes 34 and computers 32. Service security server 198 also controls access to other services including data and telephone services."
The question then is, is this interdiction limitation material to limiting the scope of the patent? If so, then everyone on BBR that's so concerned can breathe a sigh of relief. Otherwise, everyone can continue wringing their collective hands until the file wrapper is examined. |
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bmn
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| said by Goober  :First of all, thanks once again BBR for your yellow journalism tactics when it comes to patent matters. I suppose it's good for you guys to rile up the masses. The yellow journalism that you accuse BBR of is misdirected...
The story here is simply a direct quote from the Light Reading article:
"Patent 7075919, awarded to Cisco earlier this year, states that Cisco is the proud owner of any "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network.""
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Goober
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| In a certain sense you are right. But, BBR constantly does this and should know better.
How many more times do we need to hear, "I've patented breathing," "I've patented walking, "I've patented eating," etc. In the past 6 years I've heard it way too much.
It's okay, it's a private site and they can do as they please. |
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Maondas
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| You'll notice a lot of those jokes have died out since I patented "making stupid patent jokes" and refused rites to the internet community at large.
I'm off to litigate myself; wish me luck!
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said by Goober :everyone on BBR that's so concerned can breathe a sigh of relief. ah, finally a post from someone who is not ignorant about patents... |
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Goober
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Naperville, IL | After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. |
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mr weather
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| said by Goober :After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. "12-14 years" sounds like you were doing time in the state pen. 
I'm in the business too and, yeah, the claims are what define the invention. Not the abstract.
The prosecution file history should be an interesting read. Wonder what tactics Cisco used to bamboozle the Examiner into issuing the Notice of Allowance.
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Goober
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Naperville, IL | 12 as a registered patent attorney and 2 years while clerking during law school.
Sometimes the practice of law feels like doing time in a state pen . . . |
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Goober
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said by mr weather :said by Goober :After 12-14 years in the biz, this kind of stuff is pretty automatic. "12-14 years" sounds like you were doing time in the state pen. I'm in the business too and, yeah, the claims are what define the invention. Not the abstract. The prosecution file history should be an interesting read. Wonder what tactics Cisco used to bamboozle the Examiner into issuing the Notice of Allowance. I think there's a lot of file history to read there. I started looking at it and then lost interest because I don't really care. |
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said by Goober :In a certain sense you are right. But, BBR constantly does this and should know better. Nyeh, true to an extent... But if this country's patent system wasn't so screwed up and if companies weren't so damned patent happy, the jokes and sensational stories would evaporate...
While this story maybe raising some eyebrows for some, they should be raising their eyebrows in disgust at the fact that the biotechs thought they could file patent claims on genes and DNA sequences... And apparently they've had those patents granted too...
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Goober
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| Yeah, true to an extent.
I guess I don't get too concerned because these things eventually work themselves out in court if needed. Bad patents just can't stand the scrutiny usually and will go down. Yes, there's expense involved in all that and the little guy sometimes ends up taking a beating.
I'm just not sure what the reasonably priced solution is and if it even exists. |
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