BuriedCaesar
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| MacDailyNews fires back...
They actually fired back before this popped up here - their original post from earlier today, for your consideration, derision, etc...:
»www.macdailynews.com/index.php/w···ows_pcs/
In case you're not feeling adventurous enough to enter a bastion of MacHeads, here's what they said in response to this story:
"Ooh, we're shaking with fear. Let us know when Macs are hit with spyware or viruses in the wild, okay? Until then, we're not buying what Symantec et al are peddling. While smaller market share is no doubt yet another advantage for Mac security, Mac OS X is inherently more secure than Windows. With 20+ million Macs in the world, why has there been no single successful Mac OS X virus in 5+ years? Shouldn't there be a few or at least one?
Remember, do not download, authorize, and install things on your Mac from untrusted websites.
By design, Mac OS X is simply more secure than Windows. Period. For reference and reasons why Mac OS X is more secure than Windows, read The New York Times' David Pogue's mea culpa on the subject of the "Mac Security Via Obscurity" myth here - »www.macdailynews.com/index.php/w···dows_xp/
Macs account for roughly 10% of the world's personal computer users (some say as much as 16% (»www.macdailynews.com/index.php/w···malware/) so the first half of the myth doesn't even stand up to scrutiny. Macs aren't "obscure" at all. Therefore, the Apple Mac platform's ironclad security simply cannot logically be attributed to obscurity.
There are zero-percent (0%) of viruses for the Mac OS X platform that should, logically, have some 10-16% of the world's viruses if platforms' install bases dictate the numbers of viruses. The fact that Mac OS X has zero (0) viruses totally discounts "security via obscurity." There should be at least some Mac OS X viruses. There are none. The reason for this fact is not attributable solely to "obscurity," it's attributable to superior security design.
Still not convinced? Try this one on for size: according to Apple CEO Steve Jobs at WWDC, there are "19 million Mac OS X users" in the world and there are still zero (0) viruses (»www.macdailynews.com/wwdc_2006_keynote.html). According to CNET, the Windows Vista Beta was released "to about 10,000 testers" (»news.com.com/Testers+lock+horns+···696.html) at the time the first Windows Vista virus arrived (»www.macdailynews.com/index.php/w···s_vista/). So much for the security via obscurity myth (»www.macdailynews.com/index.php/w···myth/)." --
That was preposterous! Utter Nonsense! Totally unsupportable drivel! You can't be serious!....Um, what did you say? |
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blueOne
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Alameda, CA | Hmmmm...seems awfully quiet in here after your post.
I can hear all the Windows people grunting as they walk away.
"Brgh grhn grrm stupid one button mouse grrm..." |
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Michieru2
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Miami, FL | reply to BuriedCaesar
Now that's what I call dropping the bomb  |
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valuepac0
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| I think people are missing the point, Apple has had to release many more security updates recently...
"But according to a new study by security vendor Symantec, the number of vulnerabilities identified in Apple's Safari browser in the first half of 2006 doubled over the prior six months—and it increased its window of exposure to Net-based exploits from zero days to five."
Just because apple has more security holes that needed update, doesn't mean that people are exploiting them, just means they were there at one time for someone to take advantage, which in-turns makes the MAC OS more varniable for potential attacks
BTW be careful what you read into media... Baseline doesn't seem to be the most ethical in news... |
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs | reply to blueOne
I hear crickets.... |
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Midak
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said by BuriedCaesar  There are zero-percent (0%) of viruses for the Mac OS X platform that should, logically, have some 10-16% of the world's viruses if platforms' install bases dictate the numbers of viruses. The fact that Mac OS X has zero (0) viruses totally discounts "security via obscurity." There should be at least some Mac OS X viruses. There are none. The reason for this fact is not attributable solely to "obscurity," it's attributable to superior security design.
The whole basis of this theory is right here. The theory is based on apples and oranges (pardon the pun.) Can anyone show proof that any script kiddies out there or "hackers" that own Macs have even attempted to create a virus for the Mac? Viruses have always been created for maximum exposure. Writing one for Macs only, based on the numbers provided, would only expose 16% of the market share at best instead of 84% of the market share. I am not a Mac basher, first used one in 1989/1990 with that all in one box and then the Apple Power PC and both served their purpose. The macs today are simply overpriced for most people and IMO out of the price range of the jackasses who waste take their time in writing virii. |
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Michieru2
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That is to be expected as the OS is now being in more people's hands. More bugs are going to be found and most likely exploits. As long as the company finds them before the bad guys do there is nothing to worry about.
Also I don't read this type of crap media, it's nothing but flamebait and being here quite a while on DSLR. I would submit articles but they never seem to make it to the front page. |
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No, I think most people on here just don't care, or are tired of Mac people constantly patting themselves on the back.
I've had a PC for 22 years, connected to BBSes and the internet constantly (and downloading multiple files daily) for 20 of those years, and I have never, ever been affected by a virus or spyware in more than an "annoyance" sense.
Never.
And I'll think you'll find plenty of others who have had the same experience.
Melissa didn't affect me. Sasser didn't affect me. Klez, Blaster, even freaking Michaelangelo back in those paranoid days. Never had a rogue toolbar or porn dialer.
Do I know people that have? Sure. Not me. Do I know Mac people who have had unexplained total system losses? Sure. It's a computer. Sh!t happens.
Yes, PCs have a lot of problems - namely due to the thousands of vendors of hardware and software that have to try and play nice in the PC world.
However, the stereotypical image of the smug, conceited mac user is not an untrue one in my opinion, as you guys are proving overwhelmingly here.
The pattern just repeats.. Any criticism of Apple gets diverted to the "Yeah, well PCs suck hard!" shouting match (which isn't even the topic at hand), and anyone who defends PCs empirically or anectdotally is automatically labelled a troll.
However, every Mac user who tells a story gets a "Bully!" and the word of clearly mac-slanted publications is taken as gospel.
Like I said in a post a few days back, It's a computer, not your prom date. Really, it's not all that impressed by your adulation. |
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N3OGH
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| said by tcp1 :Like I said in a post a few days back, It's a computer, not your prom date. Really, it's not all that impressed by your adulation. Isn't it???
Oh well.
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