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chemaupr

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reply to StaticMan
MAC asked for it...

# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, thus if you are writing a malicious code, you will want to maximize your damages.

Now, MAC has been stepping up their "untouchable" speech lately. I'm quite sure that there are many people wanting to prove them wrong.

StaticMan

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EXACTLY, if they would have just kept their big mouths shut they would not have the mobs of hackers out there saying to themselves,"untouchable huh? we will see about that!"


LegoPower77
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ROTFL, dumbasses.


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said by LegoPower77 See Profile :

ROTFL, dumbasses.
Agree. That old "because nobody uses Macs is why they are safe" (and it's 'Mac' not 'MAC' people!!!!) is tired and flawed.
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Shark_615

join:2006-01-17
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Tired maybe but Flawed no.

The "hackers" that exploit Windows that cause spyware, virii problems do so to make money. They DO NOT do it for publicity. The last thing they want is to sit on David Letterman and explain how they did it.

They want cold hard cash and such will ignore Mac's until it becomes profitable.

BhuddaBlessU

join:2006-09-24
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 Mac Is Nothing...

But a piece of UNDER-PERFORMING and OVERPRICED computer hardware with an OS that also has full of hidden exploits but less hackers/crackers exploiting them due to the very low percentage of users with Macs on the computing world... Hell even my cheapo Intel Core 2 E6300 with 2GB of DDR2-667 Memory and a nvidia 7900gtx on WinXP SP2 can outperform the Macs for 1/4 of the price... And did i ever mention i never had a crash and/or issue with computer security? Lol... Remember Mac fanboys users, NO OS is secure in this world... Only "knowledge" on the end user's side will keep you secure.


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Sniff sniff! Sniff! I smell...a troll!

Sniff!


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This whole thread was nothing but "troll lure" from the get go.

And of course, the tired old "My cheapo computer can outperform the Mac at 1/4 of the price" has to come up.

Just about every post in this thread is nothing but trolling.

Fine, you like Windows, have fun with it, enjoy it. No one is telling you what OS to use. Come to think of it, I don't think I saw one Mac person post in this forum yet.

Both OS's have advantages over the other. Let's just leave it at that...


blueOne
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reply to chemaupr
Re: MAC asked for it...

said by chemaupr See Profile :

# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used,
So, it could also be said that the reason IE has so many holes compared to Firefox is because it is more widely used.
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GilbertMark
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reply to chemaupr
said by chemaupr See Profile :

# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, thus if you are writing a malicious code, you will want to maximize your damages.

Now, MAC has been stepping up their "untouchable" speech lately. I'm quite sure that there are many people wanting to prove them wrong.
The #1 reason they are most vulnerable is because of the sheer volume of PCs in the world. Maybe the tie for #1 reason is Windows is a piece of Swiss cheese of an OS full of exploitable code. The next reason they are the most vulnerable is because of the sheer number of dopes that use a PC and know nothing about a computer or security.

My 5 Macs at home have NEVER had any issues with any of this net garbage that gives Windows users headaches.

Symantec go away with your snake oil, this Mac user isn't interested.
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Mike
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reply to BhuddaBlessU
Re: Mac Is Nothing...

someones mommy didn't buy them an ipod


guitarzan
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reply to Shark_615
Re: MAC asked for it...

Since its Symantec spreading FUD about both PC's and now Mac's, just ignore the rhetoric.


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said by GilbertMark See Profile :

The #1 reason they are most vulnerable is because of the sheer volume of PCs in the world. Maybe the tie for #1 reason is Windows is a piece of Swiss cheese of an OS full of exploitable code.
I don't buy the myth that Macs have no viruses (have no real need for a commercial anti-virus product) because there are not enough of them (implying that as they become more popular, they will be infested). Hackers work very hard to assemble a botnet of just 1000 to 10000 computers, their botnet gets found, shutdown, stolen by other hackers. It is hard work being a russian botnet extortionist.

If these extortionists and spam generators could so easily pick and choose a security hole in OSX to exploit, they could then easily find green fields among mac users who do, after all, share files, send messages to each other, download software, stay online all day and night and browse web pages just like windows users.

But they do not. There are no, none, nada Mac botnets, spam and click-fraud generators!

It cannot be explained by market share anymore. It is too easy to find as many Mac (or linux or BSD) machines in that vast sea of IP addresses as anyone could possibly want.

The answer is something more important: Macs are by default more secure, holes are fixed faster, and the OS is just far less vulnerable to neophytes unconsciously installing malware.

I purchased a Mac for my parents and they have to type the root password to do anything important to it. They have to take several actions in order to install a new application. I fully expect to come back in a year and see that hardware issues aside, it is working exactly as it did the first day they opened the box! It is available for any hacker to overtake - the owners do not read or understand security bulletins (although it is set to silently download and install updates weekly). They will also not become Symantec or any other AV company customers, if the AV packages look and work like windows AV packages then either they are not necessary, or the Mac OSX design has failed.

I also am totally against a world where AV company products are necessary for my smartphone, my car system etc etc. If a device needs a 3rd party, or built-in, AV product like Symantec then it has failed at the design phase. They are dying to find reasons to expand into those markets but, sorry, outside windows, I think they invent their own business justifications.


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Well spoken and absolutely 100% fact. I don't think I could have expressed my point any more eloquently than you so I'll let your statement stand high atop all of this finger pointing and oneupsmanship.

Thanks, Justin...you rock!
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reply to GilbertMark
said by GilbertMark See Profile :

said by chemaupr See Profile :

# 1 reason PCs are more vulnerable is because they are the most used, thus if you are writing a malicious code, you will want to maximize your damages.

Now, MAC has been stepping up their "untouchable" speech lately. I'm quite sure that there are many people wanting to prove them wrong.
The #1 reason they are most vulnerable is because of the sheer volume of PCs in the world. Maybe the tie for #1 reason is Windows is a piece of Swiss cheese of an OS full of exploitable code. The next reason they are the most vulnerable is because of the sheer number of dopes that use a PC and know nothing about a computer or security.

My 5 Macs at home have NEVER had any issues with any of this net garbage that gives Windows users headaches.

Symantec go away with your snake oil, this Mac user isn't interested.
My Windows machine doesn't get the stuff either


tcp1
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reply to guitarzan
Right, what a great idea. Just close your eyes and pretend your mac is impervious.

Good luck with that one.


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Re: Mac Is Nothing...

said by BhuddaBlessU See Profile :

But a piece of UNDER-PERFORMING and OVERPRICED computer hardware with an OS that also has full of hidden exploits but less hackers/crackers exploiting them due to the very low percentage of users with Macs on the computing world... Hell even my cheapo Intel Core 2 E6300 with 2GB of DDR2-667 Memory and a nvidia 7900gtx on WinXP SP2 can outperform the Macs for 1/4 of the price... And did i ever mention i never had a crash and/or issue with computer security? Lol... Remember Mac fanboys users, NO OS is secure in this world... Only "knowledge" on the end user's side will keep you secure.
Being a Windows user myself, Windows is more expensive. Try pricing a Dell up to Apple's specs, it will be in the near $4,000s...then you will see that Apple is actually CHEAPER than most comparibly priced PCs. And since new Apple computers can run Windows, I do not see what is stopping them from going that direction. Though for me on the other hand, I do not plan to go Mac anytime soon, as tempted I was in the past.
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Re: MAC asked for it...

said by justin See Profile :

There are no, none, nada Mac botnets, spam and click-fraud generators!
Macs are part of botnets. They got that way thru 3rd party software running on the Mac. Does it matter that the vector of control wasn't thru the operating system?
»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···279.html
»blog.washingtonpost.com/security···ack.html
Taylor became obsessed with tracking a rather unusual botnet consisting of computers running Mac OS X and Linux operating systems. Working a week straight, Taylor located nearly all of the infected machines and had some success notifying the owners of those systems, but the Taiwanese ISP the hackers used to host their control center repeatedly ignored his requests to shutter the site."

The botnet Taylor had tracked was created using a known security hole not in Linux or OS X, but in something that runs on top of the operating system. This is PHP, a development programming language built specifically for Web sites. By leveraging this PHP flaw, the attackers were able to seed the Mac systems with several tools designed to turn them into drones for use in waging destructive "distributed denial of service" attacks,

But the fact is that there are dozens of pieces of malicious code circulating online that will happily infect OS X systems if their users are running vulnerable third-party applications. In some cases, the impact on the user may be little more than public embarassment. A large number of Web sites running vulnerable PHP applications on OS X systems are regularly defaced by hacker groups who replace the sites' home pages with hacker screeds or even some political statements.

Shadowserver founder Nicholas Albright said he and his crew have found at least 20 variants of the same Perl script that can be used to open back doors on OS X systems running vulnerable Web applications.

"Why does everyone get all hot and bothered when someone mentions Mac OS X being in a botnet?" Taylor asked. "Maybe I should have said I was tracking several PHP-enabled computer systems. I think it is time to quit focusing on just the ... operating system and think about the applications that are installed on it and how the security of the system can be compromised by [them]."
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