said by justin :

47 to 38 over a small period reported by symantec which is trying to sell software is very incomplete information.

Which of these bugs allowed software to be installed? which were exploited and how easy was it? which were fixed immediately, and which took a week+ to be fixed? who found and reported each bug?

all of these things need consideration before you can declare anything about the two browsers and their relative security.

said by blueOne :

So, it could also be said that the reason IE has so many holes compared to Firefox is because it is more widely used.

said by Nerdtalker :

(which is fixed in the latest Vista builds),

said by justin :

Instead you should be trying to defend why running admin by default (most windows PCs run admin) is not a problem, and why the complexity of activeX is not a problem, and why releasing fixes at monthly intervals is not a problem (for the average user (users that make up the audience of AV vendors).

said by Nerdtalker :

Nothing is perfectly safe. If Mac users still think they're immune, the inevitable fall will simply be that much proportionally greater.

said by justin :

There are no, none, nada Mac botnets, spam and click-fraud generators!

Taylor became obsessed with tracking a rather unusual botnet consisting of computers running Mac OS X and Linux operating systems. Working a week straight, Taylor located nearly all of the infected machines and had some success notifying the owners of those systems, but the Taiwanese ISP the hackers used to host their control center repeatedly ignored his requests to shutter the site."

The botnet Taylor had tracked was created using a known security hole not in Linux or OS X, but in something that runs on top of the operating system. This is PHP, a development programming language built specifically for Web sites. By leveraging this PHP flaw, the attackers were able to seed the Mac systems with several tools designed to turn them into drones for use in waging destructive "distributed denial of service" attacks,

But the fact is that there are dozens of pieces of malicious code circulating online that will happily infect OS X systems if their users are running vulnerable third-party applications. In some cases, the impact on the user may be little more than public embarassment. A large number of Web sites running vulnerable PHP applications on OS X systems are regularly defaced by hacker groups who replace the sites' home pages with hacker screeds or even some political statements.

Shadowserver founder Nicholas Albright said he and his crew have found at least 20 variants of the same Perl script that can be used to open back doors on OS X systems running vulnerable Web applications.

"Why does everyone get all hot and bothered when someone mentions Mac OS X being in a botnet?" Taylor asked. "Maybe I should have said I was tracking several PHP-enabled computer systems. I think it is time to quit focusing on just the ... operating system and think about the applications that are installed on it and how the security of the system can be compromised by [them]."

said by trparky :

They're just trying to make them look useful again. In my eyes, Symantec hasn't been useful since NAV2003.

Ever since NAV2003, it has been nothing but bloat, bugs, bloat, bugs, and more bloat and bugs.

said by BhuddaBlessU :

But a piece of UNDER-PERFORMING and OVERPRICED computer hardware with an OS that also has full of hidden exploits but less hackers/crackers exploiting them due to the very low percentage of users with Macs on the computing world... Hell even my cheapo Intel Core 2 E6300 with 2GB of DDR2-667 Memory and a nvidia 7900gtx on WinXP SP2 can outperform the Macs for 1/4 of the price... And did i ever mention i never had a crash and/or issue with computer security? Lol... Remember Mac fanboys users, NO OS is secure in this world... Only "knowledge" on the end user's side will keep you secure.