deblin
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| Core 2 Duo E6600 temps?
I've got my E6600 going, and loving it. I'm a bit concerned about the temperatures, though.
I've got it overclocked to 3GHz and it's very stable. I'm using a cheap water cooled kit (Coolmaster M80).
It's running 46-47 C idle, and gets up to 52-53 when under full load of both cores.
I'm fairly sure the heat sink on the water kit is properly installed, though it may not be fully flush because of soldering tips on the bottom of the motherboard preventing a flush clamp of the bottom mounting bracket. I'm using arctic silver 5 and applied about a BB size to the center.
The reason these temps seem a bit high is with my P4 3.0 Prescott I was idling about 39-41C and under load it'd be about 50-52.
So, should I look for a high quality air cooling HSF to replace this water kit? Since 52-53 is still pretty well below 60 I'm not overly worried, but it just seems odd that it'd idle hotter than the prescott CPU.
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clubs:  | Out of curiosity, what thermal compound are you using?
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deblin
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salterbomb
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Conroe, TX | you said it idled hotter than a prescott but was that prescott overclocked by 600mhz? |
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deblin
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Middletown, DE | It's the same temperature when running at 2.4. At least for a few minutes idle from the BIOS HW monitoring.
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signmeuptoo
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clubs: | reply to deblin
I thought the core 2s would be significantly cooler, how can they produce more watts in heat? Oh well, I guess at the same clock maybe...
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fegul
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I have those same temps, with that same proc. Mine runs a little warmer I think though; »Core 2 Duo Heat issues
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Raphion
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FWIW, "idle" temps shown in BIOS seem notably warmer than an idle reading taken while running windows. Has something to do with some "idle process" that windows runs I heard. In BIOS, my E6700 at stock 2.666Ghz speed runs about 43C, but when I get into windows, it drops under 35C, sometimes even under 30C. 45C is the hottest it ever gets in windows, even under 100%, so I'm guessing the BIOS actually loads the CPU pretty heavily somehow. Either that, or the mobo montitor that shipped with the mobo reads 10C too low.  |
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av8ndv8
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| reply to deblin
Yeah, I was amazed at the heat one can generate, they aren't nearly as cool as we were lead to believe.
Tcore max is 85*C so if you're in the low 50's, be happy. My 6400 running about 50% O/C'd hits 64* under dual loads but I'm running stock cooling. It runs in the high 40s 95% of the time. |
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Carbon Unit
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Saint Charles, MO | reply to deblin
Mine runs about 40c idle and about 55c under load
with speedstep about 32c
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deblin
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Middletown, DE | With what cooling? And is yours an E6600? At what speed?
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| reply to av8ndv8
said by av8ndv8  :Yeah, I was amazed at the heat one can generate, they aren't nearly as cool as we were lead to believe. Intel Lied, CPU's Died!  |
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Shootist
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Not sure but mine runs a lot cooler @ 3.105GHz. I'd look at getting a better heatsink/fan and get some more air flow through your case.
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fegul
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| I'm not sure if thats the only issue though.
I have an Antec P180 case which according to Intel is a thermally advantaged chassis. I've done some cable management and moved all major cables out of the way of the airflow. I've also tried using an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.
My temps have not ever gone below 45C idle. However, I honestly believe that my temps are being misreported. One of the applications I've used reported temps 3-4 C lower than some of the others, so I do believe something is going on.
I've stayed on top of BIOS updates and so far there havent been any that have fixed my issues. According to Intel, I am the 3rd case that has reported this issue as of last week
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av8ndv8
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| reply to deblin
The only temps I pay much attention to are the core temps measured by Intel Thermal Analysis Tool: »www.hardware.fr/marc/TAT.exe
or Core Temp: »www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo···hp?t=137 |
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Shootist
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Well my system is in a Antec P160W with Antec TPII 550 PSU, Scythe Infinity with the stock 120mm fan that comes with it, rear case fan with speed knob mounted in the front of the case (Speed set to the lowest setting) and a second 120mm fan (actually the one that came in the case as thee rear fan) mounted to the HDD cage blowing in on the memory and chipset heatsink. That fan is connected to the FAN ONLY connector from the PSU.
NOTE:
I do have the side of the case off but even with it installed the temps are 3-4 degrees higher and in the low 50's under full load.
I find the newer PSU's do not move enough air, Yeah they are quiet but they make the system hotter. With the side of the case on and the rear case fan spinning at full speed it draws air in through the PSU and slows the fan speed of the PSU. I have tested this by holding a lite cigarette at the back of the PSU and the smoke goes into the PSU. The Antec TPII 550 fan spins at 795-811 and all you feel out the back is some warm air with no force. If I had to do it over I would of gotten a Smart Power 2 with the 2 fans. Now that PSU moves some air. I would hate to see what the temps of my system would be with only the PSU fan moving air through the case.
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Shootist
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Have you lapped the CPU? There are some that have rounded edges to the heat spreader that make the heatsink sit above the center of the CPU.
First pic is with some program that reads the CORE temp of the CPU and the Asus monitor with 2 CPU Burn in running.
Second is my CPU after about a 2 weeks of having the heatsink connected to it, see the marks on the outside of the heat spreader. There are similar marks on the heatsink. Third is with it lapped slightly, see how the nickle is gone on the outside of the heat spreader. And forth is the final lap job, copper exposed in the center and on the edges but nickle still left at spots.
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fegul
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| I have not lapped the CPU, does it void the warranty?
I'm also a college student so time (and money) is a premium. I'd rather have a CPU overheat while its under warranty and have Intel replace it rather than void the warranty and mess it up accidentally. Once it leaves the warranty I might do something, but by then I'll probably be building a new system anyways
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Shootist
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| Yes it sure does. But for me I really didn't care. I was under the impression that you could push these CPU's to the max and to date I can't get my system over 345. It might be the RAM but other that are using the same brand and type are hitting 400+ with no problem, although that is with the E6400 2.1x model CPU. And even at 345 I can't run Prime or Orthos for more then 3-5 second without it halting. Funny part is if I just stress the CPU it will run forever. But once I try to do the Blend test it fails. I have gotten new RAM from Newegg and it seems to be worse with the new, actually it's the same brand and type (Corsair XMS DDR2 5400C4). Maybe with 6400 RAM it might work but I'm not going to buy more RAM just to find out it wasn't the RAM.
I really can't put my finger on the problem but even Memtest86+ fails at any bus speed over 330.
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signmeuptoo
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Time for a *good* heatsink, looks like, boys. How come so few of you look at thermalrights nowadays? Their new SI-128 is beefy as all get out, and their latest HR is as good as any other and takes a fan now.
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