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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to nixen
Re: Hardly Surprising

It used to be that headphones were free. Now, they cost.

Food (even bad food) was free. Now, it costs if you get any. Airlines used to give you real silverware with your food. Now, you're lucky if the plastic fork and knife don't break while you are eating.

Airlines all over are in major trouble and how many will actually spend the moneyto buy in-flight wifi?


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net


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Heck the Airlines kick, scream, and try to put off safety improvemnts to their airplanes you can bet your jet lag they are not going the spend money on anything else.
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phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

reply to moonpuppy
Continental still serves meals at meal time, for free. For airline food, it is actually pretty good.

As for the headphones... when I was 10 (back in 1990) and my family moved to Korea, the sound system on the plane was basically 'air powered.' Meaning... you didn't have electronics. The "headphones" were just tubes that the sound waves traveled through. This was an international flight on Delta; I can't speak to other airlines. So, I can imagine the "headphones" weren't that expensive. Contrast that with today that have normal stereo jacks (some have two mono jacks, to limit the use of your own headphones) in the seats, and the headphones, albeit still cheap in quality, are more "normal" headphones-meaning electronic headphones. Handing out headphones to nearly every person on every flight with a movie (normally about 4 hours or more flight time) can get real expensive, real fast. I don't blame them for charging for them.

BTW - I was on a Delta about 2 years ago and I noticed the headphones were regular stereo headphones with a detachable adapter for the two mono jacks. I bought the headphones just for the adapter... so now I can use my own headphones and still get stereo sound.


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy

reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster See Profile :

Heck the Airlines kick, scream, and try to out off safety improvemnts to their airplanes you can bet your jet lag they are not going the spend money on anything else.
Saftey improvements don't yield an increase in revenues.

You can be certain that they'd be right on board with this if they had any kind of assureness of it helping their bottom line in the near-term.

-tom
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -Louis D Brandeis


Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks

join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO
·Cox HSI

reply to moonpuppy
You only need to "buy" the headphones once for $2 on Delta. I just picked up the adaptor off a pair left behind as I was deplaning once and just use my regular headphones.

Delta lost even more money by trying to sell food, so they stopped doing it.

In coach I usually don't have room to even open my laptop, wtf am I going to do with Wi-fi?

Everyone carries a cell Phone and uses it constantly before and after a flight, but how many times have you seen someone actually use the in-flight phones so prevelant on many planes?

Southwest figured out how to make money in the airline business, too bad almost all the others can't do the same.
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

reply to moonpuppy
Well I mostly always fly with Copa airlines, the food is ok and headphones are free. They also have Sirius satellite radio when tuning through the channels on board.

But for American airlines all those bastards would give you is something to drink and a bag of pretzels for a flight from Miami to Denver. Headphones where not even given out.


Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

reply to Transmaster
You mean the fuel tank explosion vulnerability that happened from a flight leaving from New York to Great Britian? Where basically because of in-proper cabling can cause the fumes of jet fuel which is compressed and heated up to explode?

Yeah that vulnerability exists in almost all jets still flown today. Only difference now any new planes made will not have that vulnerability anymore.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to Michieru2
said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Well I mostly always fly with Copa airlines, the food is ok and headphones are free. They also have Sirius satellite radio when tuning through the channels on board.

But for American airlines all those bastards would give you is something to drink and a bag of pretzels for a flight from Miami to Denver. Headphones where not even given out.
Copa Airlines = Continental Airlines

My parents have flown both and say even the font on their aircraft is the same.


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
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