lowdownshame
join:2002-12-16
Bronx, NY
2 edits | [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost i recieved this memo on the job this week and figured id share the info.
still no word on whether this will resolve any of the periodic evening slow-down issues throughout the system.
definitely seems as though CV is going chest to chest with verizons fios by going 30/5 | |
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Shirley, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost GREAT news.
I think I might actually make the switch to Boost after hearing this. | |
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dvd536
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by jpr281  :GREAT news. I think I might actually make the switch to Boost after hearing this. Remember its STILL OOL and capping policies are still in effect. enjoy that 5mbps to its fullest and see it turn into 150kbps 
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by dvd536 :said by jpr281 :GREAT news. I think I might actually make the switch to Boost after hearing this. Remember its STILL OOL and capping policies are still in effect. enjoy that 5mbps to its fullest and see it turn into 150kbps How do you find out about that? I have not seen a post of anyone with the 30/5 service being capped.
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by jaa :said by dvd536 :said by jpr281 :GREAT news. I think I might actually make the switch to Boost after hearing this. Remember its STILL OOL and capping policies are still in effect. enjoy that 5mbps to its fullest and see it turn into 150kbps How do you find out about that? I have not seen a post of anyone with the 30/5 service being capped. Well, if they cap 30/2 then chances are high they will cap 30/5. They would need some pretty significant capacity additions to support a 5mbit up pipe with no capping even with DOCSIS 2.0.
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StreetSpirit
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Roslyn, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Tradewind
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1 edit | Always nice to get something extra at no cost. Will this do anything for download speeds? I really don't upload many files.
This does suggest we have FIOS to thank.
btw... I have never experienced any evening slowdowns or any for that matter since I went to Boost about 4 months ago. Perhaps my node is underutilized or I am just lucky. | |
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Thanks for the info.
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Port Jefferson Station, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost This would be a nice change and hopefully fixes some problems at night for me as well. I can do a speedtest and get 22 down one time and then do it again and get 6 down. :-( Upload usually goes about 1.5 1.6ish | |
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clubs: | I don't have Boost, and I don't live in NY state anymore but just out of curiosity, that memo doesn't mention upstate NY, like Orange, Dutchess counties. Will they not be getting this upgrade? | |
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by JaM4150 :Orange County is usually rolled into all of NJ. It'll probably be like when a new channel is added. The new channel or in this case service upgrade occurs on the last day. I live in Matamoras, PA which shares a system with Warwick, NY and Montague, NJ. I'm in Suffern in Rockland County (West of Westchester) and I'm serviced by the Mahwah NJ System (the other half of my town and the rest of Rockland is another CV system serviced I think from Westchester). I assume that I'll get my speed roll with NJ. | |
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| said by JaM4150 :Orange County is usually rolled into all of NJ. It'll probably be like when a new channel is added. The new channel or in this case service upgrade occurs on the last day. I live in Matamoras, PA which shares a system with Warwick, NY and Montague, NJ. Ahh, I see. I just moved, but I think I'm still on the Warwick system as I'm only five minutes from Warwick even though I'm in NJ now.
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Merrick, NY | there timing would be right FIOS just turned on merrick and I was about to switch. | |
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Port Jefferson Station, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost I don't think FIOS will ever be availble for me in my part of Port Jefferson Station. :-( I have only one option for High Speed internet :-( | |
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Nesconset, NY | 5mbit on a DOCSIS system? Oh this is gonna be interesting.
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Chris123NT
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost Whenever I ran Docsdiag on my modem running boost it awlays said:
DOCSIS Operating Mode: 1.1
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1 edit | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by Chris123NT :Whenever I ran Docsdiag on my modem running boost it awlays said: DOCSIS Operating Mode: 1.1 Indeed:
said by My SB5100 :
DOCSIS operating mode = DOCSIS 1.1
DOCSIS capability = DOCSIS 2.0
DOCSIS operating as = DOCSIS 1.1
See below 
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| Yes it boots that way but switches to a 2.0 channel. This was discussed a while back. Here is one post on it, though I think there were others.
»Re: DOCSIS 2.0??
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost I looked back at some other posts, it may be that they have been running at 10mbps on the upstream channels. I would assume though since Boost requires a Docsis 2.0 modem that they will run at 2.0 and above 10mbps as part of the upgrade but I have been wrong before.
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by TheWiseGuy :I looked back at some other posts, it may be that they have been running at 10mbps on the upstream channels. I would assume though since Boost requires a Docsis 2.0 modem that they will run at 2.0 and above 10mbps as part of the upgrade but I have been wrong before. I guess we'll know by tomorrow, right? According to the release, all of L.I. should be live then.
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RickNY
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| said by Chris123NT :Whenever I ran Docsdiag on my modem running boost it awlays said: DOCSIS Operating Mode: 1.1 Indeed:
said by My SB5100 :
DOCSIS operating mode = DOCSIS 1.1
DOCSIS capability = DOCSIS 2.0
DOCSIS operating as = DOCSIS 1.1
See below
Im gonna go out on a limb here and post the exact response I had received from Wilt on this several months back when I inquired...
Specifically:
Instrumentation and tool based; the QOS for the modems, Voice services, is
derived from Docsis 1.1 and that's currently all the number you're seeing
means.
BOOST is a separate channel and does run at DOCSIS 2.0 and has a certain
set of modems, like the Moto 5120, that are "cleared" for it--in other
words, 2.0 capable.
Some people are confusing BOOST and the new service level of OOL normal, so
that's part of it.
Some modems that we didn't "approve" for the 15meg service are actually
capable of coming close, running high 13s or low 14s, but close isn't what
we specified.
If performance of 14meg is good enough and you're happy--the editorial
voice here--with the modem then changing for 1 meg or so is up to the user,
but as far as specs go, we spec'd modems that would pass 15/2.
Wilt
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1 edit | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost What's the current upstream channel spacing, symbol rate and modulation? Are they now using a 6MHz upstream channel with 64QAM Modulation? You really need a clean cable system for that. I'm on Comcast and were using a 16QAM 3.2 MHz upstream channel (2.56Msym) for 10.2Mbps per channel. 64QAM is going to have stricter signal level requirements. If your not seeing the 5mbps upload, maybe they have yet to switch the upstream modulation as each plant is certified to run 64QAM.
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join:2003-08-11
Port Jefferson Station, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost I still cannot get above 1950 range upload on my boost. Granted it is most likely plenty for me but if I'm paying for more I should get it. I may end up cancelling boost in a few weeks if things don't improve. | |
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LiberalKing
Intocable
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Bronx, NY
| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by nydennis30 : but if I'm paying for more I should get it. I may end up cancelling boost in a few weeks if things don't improve. you cant really complain until CV makes a press release. | |
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Port Jefferson Station, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost Well thats why I said in a few weeks. Figure give them time to work out the kinks and whatnot. I been debating on getting rid of boost for awhile now, but just when I was going to I read the post about the 30/5 so I will give it more time. | |
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| said by Chris123NT :5mbit on a DOCSIS system? Oh this is gonna be interesting. It'll be just like it was in the uncapped @home days except abusers will still get their upload capped.
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost Yeah, thank god I can enjoy my speed now and not get capped, but hey if this 5meg up works out for OOL well then good for them.
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LiberalKing
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join:2005-09-12
Bronx, NY | OH WOW!!!!!!!!!!
5MB UPLOAD | |
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ace41690
join:2003-01-24
Northfield, CT
1 edit | I never can understand why they offer 30mb downstream, when docsis 2 supports a 40mb downstream, but the only a 5mb upstream when docsis 2 supports a 30mb? Why not make it 30/10 or 30/15, then they would be able to say the have SOMETHING over fios. | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by ace41690 :I never can understand why they offer 30mb downstream, when docsis 2 supports a 40mb downstream, but the only a 5mb upstream when docsis 2 supports a 30mb? Why not make it 30/10 or 30/15, then they would be able to say the have SOMETHING over fios. VZ FIOS 30/5 is faster than CV 30/5 will be since VZ feeds their customers at a speed that delivers 30/5 AFTER the TCP/IP overhead is deducted while CV just provides 30/5 and your actual speed is less since the overhead is counted as part of their 30/5 delivery (Look at the DSLREPORTS Speed Test Results to see the difference [it is the gray area on the right side of the speed bar). | |
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join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
1 edit | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost The 30/5 Verizon FIOS Tier is gone.
Now It is 29.95 for 10/2
39.95 for 20/5
84.95 for 50/5 | |
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join:2000-11-11
Smithtown, NY
| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by rhard49 :The 30/5 Verizon FIOS Tier is gone. Now It is 29.95 for 10/2 39.95 for 20/5 84.95 for 50/5 That price is for 1 year FIOS contract and a combined phone service. I just got 20/5 for 39.95, normally 44.95.
No more slow news server.
I hope they lower it more, I'd like to get the 50/5 for $60. | |
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join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
| said by RARPSL :VZ FIOS 30/5 is faster than CV 30/5 will be since VZ feeds their customers at a speed that delivers 30/5 AFTER the TCP/IP overhead is deducted while CV just provides 30/5 and your actual speed is less since the overhead is counted as part of their 30/5 delivery That's not true. They provision higher on the download to compensate for overheard but not on upload. Look at the speed reports that you referenced and you'd see the download is usually around the "cap" but the upload is less.
As an example, here's my results just run on the NYC test. My tier is 20/5:
Download Speed: 20155 kbps (2519.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4486 kbps (560.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
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1 edit | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by GeekNJ :said by RARPSL :VZ FIOS 30/5 is faster than CV 30/5 will be since VZ feeds their customers at a speed that delivers 30/5 AFTER the TCP/IP overhead is deducted while CV just provides 30/5 and your actual speed is less since the overhead is counted as part of their 30/5 delivery That's not true. They provision higher on the download to compensate for overheard but not on upload. Look at the speed reports that you referenced and you'd see the download is usually around the "cap" but the upload is less. As an example, here's my results just run on the NYC test. My tier is 20/5: Download Speed: 20155 kbps (2519.4 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 4486 kbps (560.8 KB/sec transfer rate) Yeah but at least we can actually achieve our upstream :P
Last Result:
Download Speed: 50312 kbps (6289 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 4484 kbps (560.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
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| Well, it is good to have something free atleast they are not charging to boost up the boost service. Now, I'd rather have the 2mbps upload speed with no caps than having 5 mbps of upload with caps on ports. But, good to see that atleast they are trying to keep their (can I say valued?) customers.
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost I have Fios 30/5 and its killer, I would never go back to cablevision until their uptime improves. My friends Optonline died last night and is still down, no phone (voip), no internet .
The sad thing is.. there is no FIOS 30/5 package anymore.
Not sure how the FIOS 50 service compares to optonlines 30/5 pricing. | |
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by JCF :
I have Fios 30/5 and its killer, I would never go back to cablevision until their uptime improves. My friends Optonline died last night and is still down, no phone (voip), no internet . My OOL hasn't gone out for more than a couple hours in years. in fact, I don't think it's ever been out more than 2 hours. Last time i had any downtime was about 8 months ago for 30 minutes.
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rhard49
join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY | well let see if they do it. I just signed up for business FIOS 20/5 5 static IP'S 99.95 | |
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join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | I gotta respect OOL though. They (even though this is because they already have the infastructure) brought 30/5 to a neighborhood near you first. Verizon 50/10 sounds nice though. | |
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LiberalKing
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Bronx, NY | i gotta give it to CV if they really are going to upgrade our uploads. | |
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join:2001-05-14
Brooklyn, NY
| I know that it's way too early, but for the hell of it I rebooted the modem and my upstream is now showing 3.201 Mbps. This is the first time it has registered over 2.2.
It may just be an anamoly, but....
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join:2004-04-24
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| Free solution: lower the Verizon 50/5 to $44.95 and charge the $90 for 50/15 (max docsis upload 2.0 spec)!
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join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
1 edit | Got the upgrade
DocsDiag edited
docsQosMIB.1.2.2.6.2.10887.1 = 30000000
docsQosMIB.1.2.2.6.2.19119.1 = 5000000
dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-09-14 08:31:37 EST:
23335 / 2659
Your download speed : 23335 kbps or 2916.9 KB/sec.
Your upload speed : 2659 kbps or 332.4 KB/sec.
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Chris123NT
join:2001-11-24
Nesconset, NY | I guess they need that added capacity :-P. | |
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UofMiamiGrad
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Great Neck, NY | I am sure CV will now say, upload up to 5Mbps. Just as the dl is up to 30Mbps. Goodluck getting 30Mbps and 5Mbps though. FIOS must be having some impact though for CV to finally try and match VZ. | |
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| Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost said by dbmaven :  According to the documents supplied by the OP, New York (other than Long Island) isn't supposed to see the change until the 21st - a week from today. I am well aware of that fact. However, if you look above, people in NY and even Brooklyn already have it. That's why I was disappointed.
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1 edit | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boostI got the upgrade.
Brooklyn, NY, 11224.
I had to manually reset the modem. I reset it for the second time today. Low and behold!
C:\ipv6\bin>docsdiag -vv | grep 5000000
docsQosMIB.1.2.2.6.2.2476.1 = [Gauge32] 5000000
docsQosMIB.1.2.2.6.2.2476.2 = [Gauge32] 5000000
docsQosMIB.1.2.2.6.2.2476.3 = [Gauge32] 5000000
My question is why aren't we seeing higher speeds. I can't get a speed test to go above 2600kbps or so.
I will be trying a multithreaded upload. Lets see if I can saturate 5mb.
Dave
edit: Tried to saturate it with Bittorrent. 2.6mbit or so is the highest I can go. Tried to saturate it with ftp uploads. Same story.
FIOS users get 4500kbps on the 5mbit up tiers.. 2600kbps is not impressive at all for a supposedly 5mbit line.
Sorry, but this just doesn't cut the mustard as an "upgrade". Maybe if they do some REAL upgrades and spend some $. | |
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LiberalKing
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StreetSpirit
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Roslyn, NY | Re: [OOL] Boost is getting a free boost 2.6-2.7mb/s .. Hardly 5, or even 4.5.
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