ropeguru
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clubs: | NO!! Tell me it isn't so...
Blackhatters lying and cheating??? 
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XknightHawkX
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clubs: | I don't care what they did to hack the system. The fact is no OS is completely safe from being hacked. Even if they cheated now someone down the line will find out how to hack the OS. There will never be a completely safe system. |
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Combat Chuck
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| said by XknightHawkX  :I don't care what they did to hack the system. The fact is no OS is completely safe from being hacked. Even if they cheated now someone down the line will find out how to hack the OS. There will never be a completely safe system. While I agree with you're assertion that no OS is completely safe and that the "shoulda got a Mac" crowd live under a false sense of security that could largely be the direct result of the relative obscurity their OS exists in; we don't need people confusing the issue by making stuff up or exaggerating the real world implications of a flaw. All that does is make the "Mac's are impervious" crowd even more sure of themselves.
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M A R K
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| said by Combat Chuck :"the relative obscurity their OS exists in" hahahah
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Combat Chuck
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| said by M A R K :said by Combat Chuck :"the relative obscurity their OS exists in" hahahah The fact that there are more windows machines than Mac OS machines is funny?
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M A R K
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| said by Combat Chuck :said by M A R K :said by Combat Chuck :"the relative obscurity their OS exists in" hahahah The fact that there are more windows machines than Mac OS machines is funny? Not at all, the fact that you think OSX hides in obscurity is.
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Combat Chuck
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1 edit | said by M A R K :Not at all, the fact that you think OSX hides in obscurity is. You can pretend that the hax0rs are beating down the doors to hack macs or you can live in reality. The reality is that the people looking to exploit systems for profit could care less about macs because there's a whole lot more windows systems out there; the amount of time spent by all people worldwide looking for exploits in macs is going to be just a drop in the bucket compared to Windows. That's not a knock against your precious overpriced offwhite PC's, it's a simple fact of life. Now calling a mac an overpriced offwhite PC...that is a knock against Macs, all 5% of them.
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M A R K
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| said by Combat Chuck :said by M A R K :Not at all, the fact that you think OSX hides in obscurity is. You can pretend that the hax0rs are beating down the doors to hack macs or you can live in reality. The reality is that the people looking to exploit systems for profit could care less about macs because there's a whole lot more windows systems out there; the amount of time spent by all people worldwide looking for exploits in macs is going to be just a drop in the bucket compared to Windows. That's not a knock against your precious overpriced offwhite PC's, it's a simple fact of life. Now calling a mac an overpriced offwhite PC...that is a knock against Macs, all 5% of them. You win
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M A R K
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said by Combat Chuck :said by M A R K :Not at all, the fact that you think OSX hides in obscurity is. You can pretend that the hax0rs are beating down the doors to hack macs or you can live in reality. The reality is that the people looking to exploit systems for profit could care less about macs because there's a whole lot more windows systems out there; the amount of time spent by all people worldwide looking for exploits in macs is going to be just a drop in the bucket compared to Windows. That's not a knock against your precious overpriced offwhite PC's, it's a simple fact of life. Now calling a mac an overpriced offwhite PC...that is a knock against Macs, all 5% of them. And one more thing, you seem to be acting like a dick. All i did was comment on your words. I know all well that OSX is open to attacks if the time was taken.
But you seem to think i'm some kind of Mac nut. Your comments are foolish too
"My precious machine" "Over Priced"
Find me a pc with the following specifications for $1300:
»www.apple.com/imac/whatsinside.html
Now read it all carefully. And also understand your getting software that blows any shit way that comes with Windows XP. And if there is something i need thats XP only thats ok too, Ill just run XP in a window on my desktop. So i kinda get 2 computers for the price of one. Or even 3, i can run Linux in a window too. I can do anything you can to and more. And even with all that i don't feel the need to attack you, ill just let you be you.
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mlundin
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Lawrence, KS | I can build that machine and better for right at a grand and you've still got $300 to put whatever OS (or OS's) you want on it. |
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Shamayim
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said by Combat Chuck All that does is make the "Mac's are impervious" crowd even more sure of themselves. And you hate that confidence, don't you?
The truth is Mac owners don't say "Macs are impervious"; it's PC users who put those words in our mouths.
Nevertheless that's pretty much proven to be the case thus far, hasn't it?
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1.) I can build an equivalent spec PC system for about 1/4 less of the price.
2.) I dont care about mac os. I dont need it, end of story. If your expecting me to buy a mac so I can bootcamp it to run PC games, your nuts. I would rather spend nearly $500 less on a PC, and not even have to deal with the mac.
3.) Good luck upgrading that thing. My PC that uses nearly the same hardware and cost $500 less will last more then a year.
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Combat Chuck
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said by M A R K :All i did was comment on your words. Sooooo...what exactly was I doing then? I think my response to you was fairly civil considering. I mean it's taking all my willpower to not point out that you proved my point by posting the specs and that I don't care about a crappy day-planner and worse than FrontPage webpage maker......oops.
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Combat Chuck
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| reply to Shamayim
said by Shamayim :And you hate that confidence, don't you? No, I find it quite amusing frankly.
said by Shamayim :The truth is Mac owners don't say "Macs are impervious". Yeah they do. Many of them are the hacked and spyware infested windows users that know nothing about their computer and click yes on every dialog that you are currently recruiting to your side via recent Apple advertising. A slowly growing veritable time bomb should the black hats choose to target Mac OS en-mass. They are also the same people posting here saying this whole thing is a non issue because for most users there's no need for a 3rd party Wifi adapter.
said by Shamayim :Nevertheless that's pretty much proven to be the case thus far, hasn't it? Which doesn't surprise me at all in the same way that people who live out in the country can leave their doors unlocked and not worry about it.
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M A R K
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3 edits | reply to Mchart
said by Mchart :1.) I can build an equivalent spec PC system for about 1/4 less of the price. 2.) I dont care about mac os. I dont need it, end of story. If your expecting me to buy a mac so I can bootcamp it to run PC games, your nuts. I would rather spend nearly $500 less on a PC, and not even have to deal with the mac. 3.) Good luck upgrading that thing. My PC that uses nearly the same hardware and cost $500 less will last more then a year. If you reply with something along the lines with - 'But your PC cant run macos lawl!' refer to point #2. Horse shit, you do you and ill do me. The only un-ugradable part of my iMac is the video. And sure that sucks. But as for RAM, HD, CPU, Optical what ever, ill get all of it on new egg. And also, i would love to know why people hate Mac so much? What exactly do you dislike about it?
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Combat Chuck
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1 edit | said by M A R K :And also, i would love to know why people hate Mac so much? I don't hate Mac's. It's just a platform. The problem is the marketing which has caused it's users to form an irrational emotional attachment to the platform. Any anger I have regarding it is largely a result of constant belittling of other platforms "inferiority" by mac users while each new mac iteration becomes increasingly more PC like (the 20% markup and years of crap about the Power architectures superiority don't help).
At this point it is an IBM compatible with some DRM-like mechanism that allows it to run OSX.
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cableties
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| Please please folks! Enough with the My PC is better than your mac, or My mac is better than any PC or I can build this cheaper than that. A computer is a tool. (deep breath. hold. exhale. relax)
With regards to Combat Chuck, I agree! It is the marketing and zealots that I dislike about the mac. (I've been support to mac users for over 13 years and I KNOW about macs and their users).
It is almost elitist how mac users favour themselves. And its also immature how PC users taunt them. And the irony, which is still killing (sic amusing) me, is that Macs were considered toys and gaming machines, where PCs were tools of trade. Hmmm, macs are in the greater percentile for designers and science, where a game (quake) is what a PC is spec'd against. Would I have thought Apple to adopt intel? Rather I would have thought Apple to adopt AMD.
(insert rant about how the OS has gotten more slick and bloated...lacks self-healing features, is wide open to exploit and is still slow for the amount of memory you throw at it...and I am talking about BOTH Vista and 10.4/10.5)
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Spring City, PA | reply to XknightHawkX
What, exactly, is your point? Perhaps I should not go outside because there is no place I can go and be completely safe from being mugged. |
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