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JSRoman
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Normally I would agree but in this case it looks like this fiber network is purely for government and school use. This is going to save the schools and municipalities a ton of cash. If I was a resident in these area and had any Verizon service I would make sure to cancel my Verizon service to show my disapproval of their hardball tactics. Good for them for just going around Verizon and avoiding having to go to court.
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shoan

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Benton, AR

It jsut seems to me that Verizon and the Muni could quit fighting and make a coop type agreement. There are bigger things out there that need the money that get wasted on lawsuits to fight the deployment like I don't know maybe deploying service lol.


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Normally I would agree but in this case it looks like this fiber network is purely for government and school use.
I'll bet that if that was true, Verizon wouldn't have fought it. But it isn't:
To further reduce costs, and spread the benefits of fiber optics, the MAISD invited the county, Central Dispatch, Muskegon Community and Baker colleges and a nonprofit Internet-service provider to join the project,

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tsu9

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Good thing those non-profit organizations aren't out to make a profit, much like schools and government.

Dolgan
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Utter BS for Verizon to block it. There are no current plans to install FIOS in any of the Upper Midwest Region{other than Ft Wayne, IN where it is currently offered}. VZ is still involved in talks to try and sell the region and will not be doing any upgrades to the network untill the talks fail. Maybe if more communities take this action throughout the country, VZ and the other telcos will get off their arses and start deploying next gen networks throughout their footprints.

Nuts

join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
Dolgan, you hit the nail right on the head.

Ahrenl

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Which means they're not offering service. They're simply offering the network for open competition. Exactly as a municipal project should do. This should scare Verizon, as it will take away the advantage of owning the network, and providing service on it. Of course it says nothing for their ethics that they try to sue in order to stop this completely legit type of competition. This is the consequence of squeezing all your competitors off your own network; society SHOULD be correcting this inefficiency.


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said by JSRoman See Profile :

Normally I would agree but in this case it looks like this fiber network is purely for government and school use. This is going to save the schools and municipalities a ton of cash. If I was a resident in these area and had any Verizon service I would make sure to cancel my Verizon service to show my disapproval of their hardball tactics. Good for them for just going around Verizon and avoiding having to go to court.
Ya, cancel Verizon and have MAISD supply service. Oh wait, MAISD is cherry picking and the public is not welcome on the PRIVATE network. Now that the profitable services are going to be taken away form Verizon the not so profitable services will coat more. Whaaaa whaaaa, Verizon is raising prices, whaaaa whaaaa.


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Which means they're not offering service. They're simply offering the network for open competition.
Wrong, it is a private network, the public be damned.


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said by Dolgan See Profile :

Utter BS for Verizon to block it. There are no current plans to install FIOS in any of the Upper Midwest Region{other than Ft Wayne, IN where it is currently offered}. VZ is still involved in talks to try and sell the region and will not be doing any upgrades to the network untill the talks fail. Maybe if more communities take this action throughout the country, VZ and the other telcos will get off their arses and start deploying next gen networks throughout their footprints.
Or sell the swamps and woods as Verizon did in Hawaii and wants to do in North New England. Go ahead, cherry pick the easy and profitable areas. Verizon will sell your ass to the French.


The Answer Guy

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You didn't highlight the right parts.

"To further reduce costs, and spread the benefits of fiber optics, the MAISD invited the county, Central Dispatch, Muskegon Community and Baker colleges and a nonprofit Internet-service provider to join the project,... "

The law states that only educational instititutions or educational users are allowed by law to attach to a telephone companies poles. The government and other community departments don't qualify unless they only use it for education.
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