Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| har-de-har-har
And now the mismanagement chickens are coming home to roost. It is just too bad a bunch of my friends who work for this jewel of business genius are going to get screwed again.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
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Comcast, which leads in market share among broadband Internet service providers, averages just 18 percent penetration across all of its markets. For all broadband providers combined, the national broadband penetration rate is 45 percent.
»www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17029
Broad band is not like water or electricity. Most people do not want or need it. Government supplied broadband is being pushed by business that want a free ride on the backs of tax payers. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
4 edits | Sorry, but that's a crock of BS. Broadband has fundamentally changed how business is done and has the potential of turning low-economic areas into thriving technology sectors. I live in a very rural area and I know many, many people here who were waiting for YEARS for SNET->SBC->AT&T to install remote terminals for DSL to become available. To date, they still haven't done it. If it weren't for Comcast finally bringing HSI around here in 2002, we'd still be on 56k dial-up.
If most people don't need or want it, why is it that I can drive down my road which has approximately 50 houses on it in a stretch of four miles or so and almost every single one of them has their own wireless connection? I guess most people need wireless connections running on 56k dial-up, huh?
And compared to most of the BS garbage the government throws money at, a few million invested in a municipal fiber network would be a GREAT investment.
And I laugh to think that you actually believe a few small, most likely family owned businesses are able to bully around the government into these fiber network initiatives. Unless you can bribe lobby the government with a few hundred million dollars a year (like the cable companies and Bells do) the government isn't going to do a damn thing for you. Speaking of which, did you ever wonder how come the Bells didn't simply take their lobby money and actually INVEST IT IN THEIR OWN NETWORKS INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE IT WOULD BE? |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
| said by LinuxJunkie  :Broadband has fundamentally changed how business is done and has the potential of turning low-economic areas into thriving technology sectors. Seriously, how does that work exactly? Does everyone go from growing beets (to take an example of what people do out in the country around here) to writing code, or open a call center or something?
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to LinuxJunkie
said by LinuxJunkie : up. If most people don't need or want it, why is it that I can drive down my road which has approximately 50 houses on it in a stretch of four miles or so and almost every single one of them has their own wireless connection? I guess most people need wireless connections running on 56k dial-up, huh? Did you read my post with the link. You world is very small and perhaps you observation skills are laking.
45 percent of the people that have broadband available get it. It is a fact, live with it. Verizon is spending billions on FIOS. Where it has been available for one year or more only 15% get it. These are the facts of the real big world, not your small world of gamers.
50 house in one mile will not get municipal broad band. If municipal broad band cherry picks the prime areas who is going to run fiber to you? |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
1 edit | reply to AthlGrond
"Seriously, how does that work exactly? Does everyone go from growing beets (to take an example of what people do out in the country around here) to writing code, or open a call center or something?"
No, if you have a good size business then everyone shares the network.You have Colleges that in the medical section run live video, you have a big business firm, ever one is using the network while you might have a room running a meeting that uses video or even VOIP. a lot of places only use what is available to them or what the network can handle but have visions of what would make work so much better. I know of times it had effect at my work. I'm in printing, we print on demand, we have as much as 300 jobs a day come through our shop. A lot of our files come from our customers over the internet so I know what good comes from HSI. Seattle is a big city with a lot of business and we have been sitting up here in this little corner hearing and reading about other city's on the east coast getting all these new services becoming the norm sort of speak and being told we will get it when it becomes needed.Seattle Business knows whats out there and knows what it needs and is tired of people sitting on there butts getting rich and fat off us and has had it. Give it up or get the hell out of the way. Good for you Seattle. I don't see it doing anything for me but someone needs to take control and not sit back and be told what they can and cant have when it's already available to others. |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Again how does this affect low-economic areas? Everything that you listed appears to affect existing businesses, not an economically undeveloped area.
So how does providing broadband take a low-economic area to a thriving technology sector? I'm still curious in case anyone wants to explain it.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by AthlGrond :Again how does this affect low-economic areas? Everything that you listed appears to affect existing businesses, not an economically undeveloped area. So how does providing broadband take a low-economic area to a thriving technology sector? I'm still curious in case anyone wants to explain it. It doesn't. It gives business in that town cheep tax subsidised broadband. Business can and does get all of the bandwidth they want right now. That is market priced broad band though, not tax subsidised broadband. |
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