insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| They need to fix advertising.
If they are going to claim that the wireless spectrum is limited for data services, they need to stop advertising them like any home broadband connection.
They need to drop the terms unlimited and broadband and just call it a 10gig a month data service and charge a hefty fee for each gig after the 10. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| said by insomniac84  :If they are going to claim that the wireless spectrum is limited for data services, they need to stop advertising them like any home broadband connection. They need to drop the terms unlimited and broadband and just call it a 10gig a month data service and charge a hefty fee for each gig after the 10. Yep, users will ACCEPT and still buy their services if they even have a 10gig cap.
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| reply to insomniac84
Yeah, but all they have to do is point at the McDonald's ads and say "Creative advertising!" (when was the last time you got a hamburger that was even close to the picture shown? And do not try to sue, that was done and the fast food industry won.)
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WirelessMajr
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join:2005-08-03
College Place, WA | I have a buddy who vacationed in Hong Kong for a month. He showed me a picture of his Big Mac...it looked EXACTLY like the picture.
Its just here in the States |
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Hasher
join:2000-06-19
Rocky River, OH
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| I have been a long time Verizon Customer but am starting to rethink my service when my contract is due in 2007. I am tired of these people saying we give you "Unlimited" Service only to find that the "Terms of Service" state you cant do this or that, and effectively restrict you to no usage at all and charge you an arm and a leg.
If you want to limit your service then don't use the word UNLIMITED. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to RayW
said by RayW :Yeah, but all they have to do is point at the McDonald's ads and say "Creative advertising!" (when was the last time you got a hamburger that was even close to the picture shown? And do not try to sue, that was done and the fast food industry won.) We're talking about definitions here, not pictures. Not every single hamburger will look the same.
Hamburgers are not uniform
unlimited has a defined meaning
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MrBentor
join:2003-02-18
Seattle, WA
 ·Comcast
| reply to insomniac84
Misleading and obfuscated
VERY CLEARLY it states in the LETTER and ADVERTING "Unlimited"
Jeffrey Nelson, Verizon Wireless spokesman, said that calling the service, "unlimited" is not misleading. VERY CLEARLY it states in the LETTER and ADVERTING "Unlimited"
"It's very clear in all the legal materials we put out," he said. "It's unlimited amounts of data for certain types of data," he said. VERY CLEARLY it states in the LETTER and ADVERTING "Unlimited"
Verizon's terms and conditions hardly go out of their way to explain the limits on the company's "unlimited broadband access." Only once in the 20-page terms and conditions brochure, is the restriction explained, and then it is sunk in the final page in a sea of small font. How Jeffrey Nelson, Verizon Wireless spokesman, can claim "unlimited" is not misleading and that it is very clear they mean "unlimited" for "certain types of data" when in fact they are not very clear is beyond credulity . If I were to have them in my court I would ding them for willful obfuscation. I would rule in a tort action against Verizon for improperly using the word “Unlimited” when in fact it is “limited.”
Legally it is calling non-fat milk 2%., or it calling “bottled artesian water” “purified city water;” which would bring you a nasty visit from the FDA.
As it is buried near the end of 20 pages of “terms and conditions” then they are indeed not clear when they are in direct opposition to the statement made both in their advertisements and their warning letter. For the contract and the advertisement to have legality they would not only have to state specific limits on their terms and conditions but they would have to make a [*] disclaimer on the advertisement.
The FTC could smack them pretty hard I think based on the conflict herein for violations of the “Truth In Advertising” rules.
[*] "Unlimited" doesn’t mean unlimited but means up to certain secret limits on certain kinds of data only. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
| reply to WirelessMajr
Re: They need to fix advertising.
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I have a buddy who vacationed in Hong Kong for a month. He showed me a picture of his Big Mac...it looked EXACTLY like the picture.
Its just here in the States
Well, thats only because we're the fattest country on Earth and the consumers dont give a damn what it looks like. They just swallow blindly. |
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| reply to hopeflicker
Ummm...I WOULD like to get what I see, not half of it. Advertising is advertising, be it words or pictures. That is what I like about my ISP, they tell you up front what your limits are instead of hiding it in waffle/weasel words.
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| said by RayW :Ummm...I WOULD like to get what I see, not half of it. Advertising is advertising, be it words or pictures. That is what I like about my ISP, they tell you up front what your limits are instead of hiding it in waffle/weasel words. Yes, I agree with you. The pics are misleading however it seems people are mostly pissed because the vocabulary being use is down right lies. With pic's, size could be relative. I don't think the 10'x30' BigMac that i see on the billboard is gonnna work or even the 8"x15" BigMac that i see on the drive thru sign. That's just too much food for me.
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| Not talking about the picture size. Remember the pretty picture of the thick juicy meat patty, the fat red tomato slices, the visible slice of onion, the nice lettuce, the slices of pickle, and the nice fluffy bun?
Instead you get a dried out patty of something, and if you OPEN the ho-hum bun you might see a thin slice of anemic tomato, a sliver of onion, and some shredded lettuce, and maybe a piece or two of pickle. The visual equivalent of unlimited internet service.
(Oh, you can still get that burger as long as you stay away from the big burger chains. Go to most Fuddrucker's and put your own lettuce, pickle, tomato, and onion on a nice homemade bun with a nice cooked to order patty. And you can add a squirt or six of several flavors of melted cheese. Yumm-Yumm-Messy!).
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to RayW
said by RayW :Yeah, but all they have to do is point at the McDonald's ads and say "Creative advertising!" (when was the last time you got a hamburger that was even close to the picture shown? And do not try to sue, that was done and the fast food industry won.) oh yeah dont you know it. i've often wished i could have that one stacked the way they show it. and with GREEN LETTUCE!
does green lettuce even EXIST in the fast food industry?
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| said by dvd536 :does green lettuce even EXIST in the fast food industry? Fuddruckers? Oh, wait. They are not fast (just good).
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
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join:2004-09-02
Mountains | reply to WirelessMajr
No no. The burgers looks like cow manure between 2 buns that has been stomped on by a T-rex in European McDonalds as well...
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