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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
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reply to wifi4milez
Re: Are people really shocked?

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Its clear that you STILL dont get it. I never "blamed" Utopia for doing anything. I simply stated that Utopia is a business, and that a business will do whatever it takes to stay viable in the market. While Utopia themselves might not have been doing the throttling, capping, etc. that is at issue here, I can guarantee you that they would if it became necessary to support their business model. Get with the times pal.
You're right I still don't get what you're talking about. Utopia is a municipal non-profit organization. They don't charge for service. They don't provide service. They charge a flat rate to ISP's (by flat I mean, the same for each ISP), to use the infrastructure. Not to mention, to stay viable in the market, one usually does not INCREASE their price. Price increases are usually due to market inefficiencies lending one of the bargaining players more power over the other. Utopia won't throttle or cap because THEY ARE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER.

You're arguments would be considered if they were based in reality.


wifi4milez
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Its almost as if I am talking to a wall! Nothing seems to get through to you.....

said by Ahrenl See Profile :

They don't charge for service. They don't provide service
Thats interesting. So I suppose the providers that re-sell Utopia service are getting it for free? If thats the case then please sign me up to be a Utopia re-seller! Free money, cant be beat!!

said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Not to mention, to stay viable in the market, one usually does not INCREASE their price.
Where do you come up with this crap? Who ever said anything about increasing prices??

said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Utopia won't throttle or cap because THEY ARE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER.
For the answer to this one, lets refer back to my previous quote once again.
said by wifi4milez See Profile :

They will ALL do whatever it takes to maximize profit while minimizing customer churn.

If Utopia needs to do something in order to not LOSE money they will, trust me.
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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Its almost as if I am talking to a wall! Nothing seems to get through to you.....

said by Ahrenl See Profile :

They don't charge for service. They don't provide service
Thats interesting. So I suppose the providers that re-sell Utopia service are getting it for free? If thats the case then please sign me up to be a Utopia re-seller! Free money, cant be beat!!
Read the next line in my last response. But of course, then you'd have nothing to say.
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Not to mention, to stay viable in the market, one usually does not INCREASE their price.
Where do you come up with this crap? Who ever said anything about increasing prices??
Increasing price or decreasing service, amounts to the same thing. It's easier to blanket it all under price instead of continually mentioning every option they have.
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Utopia won't throttle or cap because THEY ARE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER.
For the answer to this one, lets refer back to my previous quote once again.
Well, your previous quote provided no answers, so ehhmm..

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

They will ALL do whatever it takes to maximize profit while minimizing customer churn.

If Utopia needs to do something in order to not LOSE money they will, trust me.
I don't trust you, because you don't know what you're talking about. Utopia would only lose money if they had to rebuild major portions of their infrastructure, and they purchased the improper insurance. Or some new technology, not yet invented, appears to replace fiber optics. The ISP's who pay to access the infrastructure are the ones who determine service, and pay bandwidth costs.
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