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Re: BB prices down; but gas; electric; water prices up
said by kbennett  :You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier. I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... ESPN and TWC cost a lot more than $3/month per subscriber too. So Cox will actually be making more money per basic subscriber (in addition to forcing quite a few people over to expanded basic to get ESPN).
I can't believe they are actually moving TWC and TV Guide off basic cable. That is just wrong in so many ways and really goes against the purpose (especially TWC) or basic cable. ESPN? It really belongs on expanded basic anyway and was probably unreasonably inflating the cost of basic.
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Actually, TKJunkMail posted a perfect example of what happens when government gets involved in a utility: the price goes down.
Limited basic analog is the only cable tier where government can regulate the price. What happened to the price of Cox's other tiers in Lafayette? The same thing that always happens when government doesn't get involved in utilities - the price soars. |
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Well sorry, I beg to differ;
- The bonds can be refinanced
- The bonds can be insured
- The bonds could be sold en masse to a private party
- The assets could be sold to payoff bondholders
The bondholders assume the risk, not LUS.
While not exactly the same (commercial vs. Municipal) ask @Home bondholders who held the bag when they collapsed. |
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Wow, what a deal, all of the broadcast channels for only $150 a year. |
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said by DaSneaky1D :What's the point of Basic if it only offers (supposedly) better quality local channels? I subscribe to the absolute basic. The only reason I had cable was to get cable internet, but I moved on to DSL. Then one day somebody vandalized the cable box on the side of our Apt. complex by cutting all the wires. I must have been the first to report it, because the tech came to my door, and told me what had happened. The tech hooked my cable back with Expanded Basic (2-79, I filter out MTV from my remote). Expanded Basic used to cost in the $3x.xx range, but I don't know anymore as Cox pushes digital on their website now. I'm currently paying $15.00 for Basic. |
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said by ricep5 :I am not sure why you keep asking these same questions over and over when it has been explained ad nauseum that the utility bills are not impacted by the LUS Broadband initiative. Your statement is wrong. The bonds would be an obligation of the utility if the broadband revenues were insufficient to pay the interest.
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said by DaSneaky1D :What's the point of Basic if it only offers (supposedly) better quality local channels? I remember threads not that long ago on a la carte programming where many claimed they only watched a few channels, mostly local OTA channels and wanted those low cost options. So a low basic tier of OTA channels with good clear pictures is something many would pay for.
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What's the point of Basic if it only offers (supposedly) better quality local channels?
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said by kbennett :You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier. I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... Although, I'm sure I've heard repeatedly that the per-subscriber rates for ESPN are a major factor in keeping cable package prices high. If that's really the case, shouldn't removing ESPN from a package reduce the cost by more than $3? And that's not even counting any other channels that are getting removed...
On a side note, anyone else ever notice how TKJunkMail mysteriously disappears from discussions when someone points out facts inconvenient to his arguments? |
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said by kbennett :You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier. I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... And, on a related note, if you had Basic Cable just for ESPN or TWC (which I'd be willing to bet some people do) and you want to keep those channels your bill actually goes up from $15.96 to to $46.99!! That's right, if you want to keep watching ESPN your cable bill could go up more than 300%.
Anyone want to place any wagers on what the most popular channel was on the old Basic Cable package? My money's on ESPN. |
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They're making more money- I'm thinking the rate increase is on the 'standard' (that is what we call it) Many more people subscribe to this tier than the basic |
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I am not sure why you keep asking these same questions over and over when it has been explained ad nauseum that the utility bills are not impacted by the LUS Broadband initiative.
Go hang in the Motor Fuels Tax Forum and moan about how it subsidizes Mass Transit. |
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said by TKJunkMail :Terry Huval, director of Lafayette Utilities System, says the rate-hikes are part of the reason why the triple-play fiber system is needed. The system, once built, will offer TV and broadband at rates 20% lower than Cox, says Huval.
Yes, but will the water, gas, & electric rates rise to subsidize broadband? That is the danger with government controlled utilities. If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. Ahh, yes, the price *is* going down for the absolute basic, but, extended went up by ~$5, internet went up ~$2, basic goes down by ~$2. Overall, a price INCREASE. |
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said by TKJunkMail :If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. You also lose The Weather Channel, ESPN, and the TV Guide channel from the Basic Cable tier.
I should hope the price would go down if you're removing channels... |
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said by TKJunkMail :If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary. Fantastic. Now just what percentage of the people do you think actually subscribe to only those 20 channels and nothing more? I'd wager that number is well below 20% if not in single digits. Besides which, the decrease in price of the basic cable package is just over half the value of the increase in price of the other packages - which are the ones most likely subscribed to by the majority of the population.
Hey TK, do you have Basic Cable service or do you subscribe to a higher package? |
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Shouldn't. They'll be providing them at just above cost, unlike cox which wants to make a profit. |
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1 edit |  Terry Huval, director of Lafayette Utilities System, says the rate-hikes are part of the reason why the triple-play fiber system is needed. The system, once built, will offer TV and broadband at rates 20% lower than Cox, says Huval.
Yes, but will the water, gas, & electric rates rise to subsidize broadband? That is the danger with government controlled utilities.
If you have Basic Cable - channels 2 through 22 - the good news is the price is going down in Lafayette from $15.96 a month to $12.97 a month. Seems this was left out of the BBR summary.
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