Steve
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Re: FreeBSD is not Windows
said by sremick  :Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD? He's a computer geek, so the question should be:Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend? 
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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| I have a girlfriend, but other than her already being a Firefox user when I found her, I suspect she'll always be a Windows user. She has quizzed me in-depth about my desktop though, asking why I don't use Windows and questions about what I do run.
She's going to law school and I don't think me replacing XP on her laptop with FreeBSD would go over to well. Heh.
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sporkme
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| said by sremick :She has quizzed me in-depth about my desktop though, asking why I don't use Windows and questions about what I do run. Same here, my fiancee has asked about the unix desktop thing and for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. 
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Steve
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| said by sporkme : she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. Maybe she's spending time with him? |
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TheAuthor
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> Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend?
Handed her a bottle of vodka & hoped for the best
> Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD?
She wanted something that would run a lot better on her hardware than that *cough* other *cough* OS. But she didn't want Linux because she says I'm unbearable when I know everything & she doesn't
So I pointed her at FreeBSD, which I never did get to work properly, and she got on well with that.. |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
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Hey, a gf who has heard of Solaris is almost as hot as one who uses FreeBSD. 
Usually things go something like this:
"What do you use if you don't use Windows or Mac?"
"I use FreeBSD."
*blank look*
"Umm, well ever heard of Linux?"
"Yeah."
"Well, it's not Linux, but it's more like Linux than it's like Windows."
"Oh..."
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shrtckt1
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My girlfriend is also a MS user. I tried to explain the "open source" idea to her once, she said "I guess that's interesting if your a computer nerd, but, if you used that as a pick-up line, you would probably still be dating your hand".  The funny thing is she does not mind asking for help when her XP box gives her problems. |
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sporkme
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said by sremick :Hey, a gf who has heard of Solaris is almost as hot as one who uses FreeBSD. Heh heh. She double-clicks the Dock icons on the Macs and still double-clicks links in webpages. The Solaris thing is some kind of strange brain fart I think.
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
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You should get her a Solaris theme for her computer
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wmcbrine
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1 edit | reply to sremick
said by sremick :I don't pretend to be the author... it's mostly a find&replace job from the original "Linux is NOT Windows". But now you need "FreeBSD is not Linux". (Should be much shorter.)
My girlfriend is also a MS user. I tried to explain the "open source" idea to her once, she said "I guess that's interesting if your a computer nerd, but, if you used that as a pick-up line, you would probably still be dating your hand". Not everything in life is a pickup line.
P.S. Open source should be interesting to anyone who cares about freedom. |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| said by wmcbrine :But now you need "FreeBSD is not Linux". (Should be much shorter.) No need. It already exists:
»www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ra···nux1.php
It's actually much longer though, but it's a good site.
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fcisler
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that last link is one of my favorite articles on the topic, actually! Your Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V does a good job though  No, i really like that you took the time to put that all together...
Might wanna include a footnote or two about two not-very-known facts:
* OSX is based upon BSD (freebsd if i'm not mistaken) and called aqua, again, IIRC
* FreeBSD is almost as close to the original UNIX as you can get (without the original of course)
i had a really nice timeline some time ago that detailed everything....really wish i could find it right now...
I've wanted to draft up a FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, but I haven't used NetBSD for a couple revisions.....any Net' user wants to work with me, i'd like to! When i build my NAS i'll be writing up a review of FreeBSD + 3ware 9550SX hardware raid setup Once I get the carbon fiber, resin, and finish my case layout (oh....yes....carbon fiber case)....woah...too many projects... |
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wmcbrine
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1 edit | said by fcisler :* OSX is based upon BSD (freebsd if i'm not mistaken) and called aqua, again, IIRC No... Mac OS X is loosely based on a FreeBSD userland, but with a Mach kernel. The result is distributed as "Darwin". "Aqua", on the other hand, is the GUI, and is not part of Darwin. It's based more or less on NextStep.
I can't agree with the over-yonder.net site, when it says "BSD is designed. Linux is grown. Perhaps that's the only succinct way to describe it, and possibly the most correct." It seems to me they were both "grown". |
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nixen
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said by sporkme :The Solaris thing is some kind of strange brain fart I think. That pretty much summed up how I felt when working for SGI.
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nixen
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said by sremick :You should get her a Solaris theme for her computer Why the hell would anyone want to run the Crappy Desktop Environment (or the old OpenLook, for that matter).
-tom |
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nixen
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said by fcisler :* FreeBSD is almost as close to the original UNIX as you can get (without the original of course) Dunno bout that... Berkely UNIXes, while derivative of older AT&T code, became fairly distinct from what later became "official" UNIX (SysVR3) - the stuff eventually owned by SCO, licences to Sun, IBM, SGI and a number of others and now contested in court.
said by fcisler :i had a really nice timeline some time ago that detailed everything....really wish i could find it right now... You mean like the one at »www.levenez.com/unix/?
-tom
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nixen
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said by wmcbrine :No... Mac OS X is loosely based on a FreeBSD userland, but with a Mach kernel. The result is distributed as "Darwin". "Aqua", on the other hand, is the GUI, and is not part of Darwin. It's based more or less on NextStep. Given that they borrowed much of the UI from NeXTStep, it makes a decent amount of sense that they'd use a similar root for their kernel.
-tom
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computx
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... for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from.
Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also?
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wmcbrine
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said by computx :A lady I know was overheard telling a friend I use some sort of "rogue" operating system called linux. Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also? I hope so. I remember once reading an (ahem) BSD user trying to put down Linux with a slogan like "Linux: putting power in the wrong hands." Of course I took it as a compliment.
But it's amazing the slavish mindset some people have, especially when it comes to computers. Instead of thinking "What am I free to do?", they think "What am I supposed to do?". |
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