Techman21
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perceptions are once again incorrect. This is what happens when ignorant people unfamiliar with a particular field try to explain something to the uneducated.
War driving IS NOT hacking. War driving is merely the practice of pin pointing access points and noting where they are.
And the term hacker has been beaten more than a dead cat. The term hacker: »www.webopedia.com/TERM/H/hacker.html does not mean malicious. It is given a bad rap by ignorant/uneducated reporters. Perhaps they should learn about computers before reporting on them.
lol. I wonder if their "experts" simply read the manual that came with the router/ap. RTFM!! Jebus. How many times does this have to be said. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Go ahead...commit a crime out of ignorance and see how the judicial system treats you. (note:don't actively do this, my point was you could commit a crime unknowingly and still be charged and tried.)
And by their own report they 'illegally' entered into a network. And by default you aren't able to glean all that info on a person. You'd have to actively search for it, which is NOT what war-drivers do.
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AnonProxy
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yeah sure buddy, keep telling yourself people only war drive to pinpoint locations....jesus. |
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I agree - the media should be putting out the definition of 'cracker'
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(computing) |
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said by AnonProxy  :yeah sure buddy, keep telling yourself people only war drive to pinpoint locations....jesus. He didn't say that is what they only do. He said "war driving IS NOT hacking. War driving is merely the practice of pin pointing access points and noting where they are."
What they do after that is up to them.
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said by Techman21 :perceptions are once again incorrect. This is what happens when ignorant people unfamiliar with a particular field try to explain something to the uneducated. You have to cut the news guys a little slack. Not much, but a little. Their average listener probably has about a 5th grade reading level and are dumb as rocks. If they had put together a comprehensive report that can fully explain the nuances of the problem and how much effort is involved in really making your system secure, it would have been a 1/2 hour report before the listeners would have had a chance of understanding it. And after about 30 secs, all those needing the help would have started listening to some local sports talk show.
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said by Techman21 :perceptions are once again incorrect. This is what happens when ignorant people unfamiliar with a particular field try to explain something to the uneducated. War driving IS NOT hacking. War driving is merely the practice of pin pointing access points and noting where they are. From http://www.wardriving.com/doc/Wardriving-HOWTO.txt
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There is no cut and dry answer to this question, but simply driving around a
city searching for the existence of wireless networks, with no ulterior
motive cannot be deemed illegal.
said by Techman21 :And the term hacker has been beaten more than a dead cat. The term hacker: » www.webopedia.com/TERM/H/hacker.html does not mean malicious. It is given a bad rap by ignorant/uneducated reporters. Perhaps they should learn about computers before reporting on them. News agencies need to get a clue. I agree with that.
Thanks to "hackers" we have linux. 
Maybe someone should write to these news agencies and point to these thread(s)...
[edit]I found an interesting read (PDF file) How to Avoid Ethical and Legal Issues In Wireless Network Discovery. Things like, if you want to share your wi-fi, name it public. Stumbler Code of Ethics v0.2 and Ways to avoid accidentally getting a DHCP address and accessing a network
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geden
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I run a private wisp, and yes I use netstumbler to find open channels to minimize interference. I don't need no stinkin' hack to pilfer someone else's bandwidth, I use it as a tool to keep my customers happy. |
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