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hobgoblin
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Re: Definitions please.

said by dadkins See Profile :

"well on our way to accomplishing the president's goal of universal, affordable access to broadband by 2007"

Define "broadband".
Define "affordable".
You define it.....

Hob
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dadkins
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said by hobgoblin See Profile :

said by dadkins See Profile :

"well on our way to accomplishing the president's goal of universal, affordable access to broadband by 2007"

Define "broadband".
Define "affordable".
You define it.....

Hob
I'm not the one making claims...

Broadband - should be 2mbps symetrical minimum.

Affordable - $20.00 ~ $30.00?

How would you define them?
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dadkins
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said by hobgoblin See Profile :

said by dadkins See Profile :

"well on our way to accomplishing the president's goal of universal, affordable access to broadband by 2007"

Define "broadband".
Define "affordable".
You define it.....

Hob
I'm not the one making claims...

Broadband - should be 2mbps symmetrical minimum.

Affordable - $20.00 ~ $30.00?

How would you define them?
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Think outside the Fox... Opera


cdru
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said by dadkins See Profile :

I'm not the one making claims...

Broadband - should be 2mbps symetrical minimum.
Affordable - $20.00 ~ $30.00?

How would you define them?
Not like that. 2mbits symetrical is overkill. In a technical sense, BROADband is just a transmission over a range of frequencies, so technically dialup is broadband. But in a more realistic world...

The FCC's definition is 200kbits/sec IIRC. While ~4x the speed of dialup, it's still pretty laughable. To me, broadband doesn't really start until 768kbits/sec. I'm not saying 768 is blazing fast, but for universal access I think that should be the initial level we should strive for, if not higher.

That connection should not have to be symetrical. If they are, great. But there is no need to HAVE to have them that way. There is no need for a symetrical connection for residential access. Sending reply ACKS doesn't take much and most residential customers never really use their outgoing connections except to send an e-mail or other relatively low bandwidth tasks.

As to cost, it should be affordable. It doesn't have to be so low that the crazy homeless guy that hangs out behind the 7-11 can afford it for his cardboard box. But it shouldn't cost much for the lowest tier. If the lowest tier was something like 768/128, then it shouldn't cost more then ~$20...$25 tops.

I like what Verizon has offered as it's most basic DSL tier. $15 for 768/128. It's widely available (although a lot of places still aren't serviced), it's cheap, and its good enough for most things. If you want faster, it's available, but it obviously going to cost more.
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