odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Internet net giants
need to put their money where their mouth is the cablecos and telcos have put up 152 million in lobby money in congress the internet companies only put about 10% of that 2gether plus the isp's been lobbing for years they already know who they have in their back pocket |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| Then if I may say tell your congress critter and no load activist to shut the - up!
They probably would have put the 152 million into infrastructure if they did not have to fight showboating politicians and multi billion companies who want a free ride on the net. This is a fine example what dammage government regulation can cause.
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bolt
Former Broadband Exile
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join:2003-11-11
Charlestown, IN
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| said by richardpor  :They probably would have put the 152 million into infrastructure if they did not have to fight showboating politicians and multi billion companies who want a free ride on the net. This is a fine example what dammage government regulation can cause. I beg to differ. The telcos and cable cos have proven time and again that they would rather pay off senators and other government officials than actually sink money into improvements. And just who is getting a free ride? The telcos and cable cos are free to cherry pick the most profitable ares, while ignoring anything they don't want to deal with. The country's broadband infrastructure (or lack of it) shows that. Everyone involved is already paying for the bandwidth they use, including you, me, and the content providers. Why should any of use have to pay more, especially when we are doing nothing than filling their coffers so they can not provide any better service
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Orwell1984
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Let us think about who is getting a free ride. First I would pose the question what gives value to a network? The answer is content. Without content it is worthless. TV and radio both have to pay for the content that gives value to their services.Radio even goes a step farther in that is illegal to pay to have your songs aired. IMHO any reasonable person can see that the ISPs are the ones getting a free ride. All they do is provide a connection ( at a substantial cost to the customer) and all of the content that gives value to their service is provided free of any charge to the ISP.The providers of the content pay to get their product on the web the ISPs customer pays to get it back off.Only free ride I see is the ISP making money off of other peoples content without any compensation to the provider. |
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bolt
Former Broadband Exile
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join:2003-11-11
Charlestown, IN
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| Exactly how are the ISP's getting free ride. They are purchasing larger blocks of service and reselling those in smaller chunks for the individual consumer. I still don't see how it's a free ride. If you don't like paying an ISP for service, maybe you should go right to the telco, of course providing they want to service you. I, for one applaud the many small independent ISP's as they are the ones who have provided connectivity when the telcos and cable cos were (are) to small-minded to see the need.
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nonner9
join:2005-10-14
Charlotte, NC
| it's a free ride for ISPs, in the sense that the connection is useless without any content to connect to
so the value of the internet connection is directly tied to the fact that their is content which is available through the connection... in other words, nobody in their right mind would pay for an internet connection to a new Internet-3 if there is no content available on Internet-3
so, the ISP is getting a free ride from content providers (google, yahoo, porn, games...) without that content, they wouldn't be selling a connection at all |
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Orwell1984
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| Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself.I have no problem with paying for my connection. Content providers probably have no problem with paying for their connections.Where the problem arises will be if we allow highway robbers to set up road blocks and try to extort money out of the traffic. They should shut up and be happy they don't have to pay for the content that they profit from. |
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